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A-Board ban

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  • Started 6 years ago by dessert rat
  • Latest reply from jules878

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  1. dessert rat
    Member

    Anyone know when this comes in to effect?

    All I can find is "Autumn".

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Couldn't chain my bar stewarding bike up in town tonite because all the signposts were covered in Fringe furniture. Roll on winter. Harumph.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. dessert rat
    Member

    For those that are interested:

    *************************
    Many thanks for your email and apologies for the delay in getting back to you.

    The ban will commence on Monday 5th November 2018.

    Kind regards

    Ruth
    spatial.policy@edinburgh.gov.uk

    *************************

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. steveo
    Member

    thats winter!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    “spatial.policy@edinburgh.gov.uk”

    “Advertising boards and other temporary on-street advertising structures”

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/aboards/

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. dessert rat
    Member

    Monday.

    Smashing

    http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20026/support_for_business/1773/on-street_advertising_structures

    Reporting a breach
    If you would like to report a breach please email us at aboards@edinburgh.gov.uk

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. acsimpson
    Member

    Are we going to see more of those posts which people are paid to stand holding.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The future of advertising was decided in 1952 by Frederick Pohl?

    The sequel has on-street advertising beams that instantly addict you to the product if you stand still on particular paving slabs.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. AKen
    Member

    I'm impressed that, in interests of the public good, the Council is able to ban 3 foot high sandwich boards from cluttering up the pavements.

    It will make it much easier for people to park their white vans.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. wingpig
    Member

    I only remembered about it yesterday when I reached a clutch of outdoor-seating-containment-curtains at the same time as a bunch of tourists, but at least it set me looking for A-boards to report.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. I detest the outdoor seating barriers, especially those outside Toast on the Shore, which are often so close the the edge of the pavement that you're forced to walk on the road as there's no way for pedestrians going in opposite directions to pass each other.

    All that money spent a few years ago widening the pavements for 'pedestrian safety', yet all it's really done is hand the extra space over to outdoor seating, so pedestrians still have to fight for what's left of the pavement space.

    Toast was setting theirs up this morning at 6.40am, which is a new low. They're like German tourists rushing out to get their barriers down to claim their pavement! ;-)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. Stickman
    Member

    Platform 5 opposite Haymarket still had theirs out this morning. It’s perfectly placed to create a massive pinch point: next to the bus stop, beside a phone box and their own outside seating. The useable width of pavement is probably a quarter of what it should be.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. acsimpson
    Member

    Rather than walk into the road perhaps it's time to start jumping the barriers and walking amongst the tables.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. @acsimpson I have, on occasion, folded up their A-Board and placed it inside their seating area or lifted and moved their little barriers in a foot or two when they've blocked almost the entire pavement.

    I don't think the staff like me very much for doing so (they give me the filthiest stares), but I don't care. I'd already fallen out with them over the owner's repeated parking on the pavement & double-yellows on Burgess St, right outside the business.

    I have never, nor will I ever, set foot in Toast or Printworks Coffee as a matter of principle now.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. ejstubbs
    Member

    I'm sure I've seen places where small metal plates have been fixed to the pavement to indicate the limit of the area that businesses can usurp. Possibly abroad, or in That London, but I have an inkling maybe even on George Street?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. neddie
    Member

    I've seen places where small metal plates have been fixed to the pavement to indicate the limit of the area that businesses can usurp

    That indicates the extent of the private land, which may be accessible to public and also have its own set of (often non-publicised) rules & regulations*.

    That doesn't stop businesses putting stuff down on the public land outside of those markers, though.

    *For example, in England at least, they can turf you off the (what appears to be public, but is actually private) land if they don't like the look of you

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. acsimpson
    Member

    There are plenty of examples of them in Keswick. The public pavement in places is less than a metre wide but private land makes it much wider.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. acsimpson
    Member

    There are plenty of examples of them in Keswick. The public pavement in places is less than a metre wide but private land makes it much wider.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. gembo
    Member

    I struggle with sitting outside a cafe or pub if the seating is next to a Road with cars. Not enjoyable. My default is inside. Even beer gardens are areas I struggle with. If you want to sit outside drinking why not buy some tinnies and sit in a field?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I have tried hard to imagine @gembo drinking beer from a can in a field. To no avail. It would be like finding a giraffe on Rannoch Moor.

    No one doubts my suitability for open-air drinking.

    Mods and rockers innit?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. jules878
    Member

    I reported a couple of A-boards this aft which are on Morrison Street.

    Reply from council says "Good afternoon Jules, It looks like this area is private.The footway is adopted but the small element paving directly outside the premises is not meaning they are entitled to use this area. Cheers, Chris."

    See link to tweet and replies here
    https://twitter.com/jules878/status/1151496361919074304

    Did reply mean that this narrow pavement on Morrison Street is privately owned, and thus they can do what they like?

    If there is no publicly owned pavement here why not? The pavement is extremely narrow and people often walk in the road here (especially during rush hours when the road is most busy).

    The road is very wide for the two lanes of traffic. Maybe an opportunity to narrow the traffic lanes, put in cycle lanes, and expand the width of this pavement?

    Just a thought!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. neddie
    Member

    My take is that the small-tiled section of the footway is privately owned, the rest (i.e. the large dark grey tiles) is not.

    Therefore, the Kurdish and Lebanese restaurant A-board looks illegal as it is encroaching on to the council-owned part of the footway (half on the private section, half on the public section).

    So I would maintain your complaint about the Kurdish and Lebanese restaurant one.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. jules878
    Member

    Those mini grey stone fancy paving setts on the inside of the larger slate pavement slabs were all installed by the Council at the same time - circa 23 October 1997!

    The Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting took place in the EICC from 24-27 Oct 1997, so there was a general last minute "tarting up" of the (very) local pavements in immediate vicinity of the EICC. (You will note if you walk along there that those little fancy grey paving setts stop at the entrance to Gardner's Cres - just out of sight of delegates!)

    So the Council installed all that paving even is it is private.

    Perhaps the Council's collective brain has forgotten they did that, but as a local resident I remember! I also remember that I was disappointed that the fancy new pavement didn't continue around into Gardner's Cres. #ElephantBrain

    Posted 5 years ago #

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