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Pannier recommendations (2018, rear, strong)

(27 posts)
  • Started 5 years ago by rbrtwtmn
  • Latest reply from Arellcat

  1. rbrtwtmn
    Member

    Hi all
    A family member is needing to replace her panniers and I thought that people might have recommendations. It's been a long while since I bought any (my Carradice canvas panniers are much repaired and a couple of decades old because I look after them, repair them, and seek a long future as a beardy old 'cyclist' type).

    REQUIREMENTS:
    Waterproof
    Large
    Heavy duty, hard wearing
    (kicked around floors, sharp edged contents carried)
    Strong
    (heavy stuff carried)
    Easy to mount and remove
    (5x per day, 5 days per week)

    Her current rack has relatively chunky rails.

    She's living proof that "ah, you'll really need a car for this job" is wrong - criss-crossing the city to multiple locations every day.

    Thanks

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    ortlieb best, they do wear out but the warranty is five years. They are expensive.

    Putting the foam from a yoga mat or similar in the bottom will prolong the time the material takes to develop tears. McNett Seamgrip will repair the tears etc.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. Frenchy
    Member

    Several years ago I got a pair with lifetime warranties from the Cycle Service. I generally only use one at a time, and don't treat them too badly, but I've not had any need to claim on that warranty (so can't comment on how easy that process is, either). Think they were ~£40 each.

    I have no idea if they still stock them, but might be worth a check?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    @frenchy, the cycle service does still have good panniers, maybe not as big as the ortliebs? Vaude brand also sturdy.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Vaude did me proud. May return to panniers after my rucksack phase.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. SRD
    Moderator

    Ortleibs. Have dabbled with others, but ortleibs outlive everything.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. unhurt
    Member

    May return to panniers after my rucksack phase.

    Worldview upended. Cats & dogs living together etc etc

    @rbrtwtmn Ortleibs great if what's needed is essentially a waterproof hard-wearing bucket. As noted Vaude good value. But my most favourites are now Arkel https://www.arkel-od.com/ - they do some very nice waterproof ones, very easy on / off, super sturdy, and a no questions asked lifetime replacement guarantee if they fail.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. rbrtwtmn
    Member

    Good so far - thanks - happy to hear further suggestions if people have them.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. Roibeard
    Member

    The Ortlieb "City" range seem to be a bit lighter and a bit cheaper - I've had better wear from the traditional "classic" range. They do a "Plus" which is a different material, and I've no experience of that.

    They appear to have released a more environmentally friendly "Free" range which might be a good option, but untried.

    Even with the City set, fabric repairs were easy (on a par with a bicycle tube repair) and the plastic fitting parts can also be obtained should any of these break.

    Robert

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. le_soigneur
    Member

    I got an EBC pannier bag on gumtree which seems to be an Ortlieb clone. My son wore thru a Lidl set in 2 weeks but these ones have come thru a month of school rucksack stuffing unscathed.
    Not sure if Bike Co-op do them any more, but worth an ask.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I think the EBC panniers - the red ones - are by Vaude.

    On the 'bay there's a pair of Carradice recumbent rear panniers, which are HUUUGE. Might be worth a shot if heel strike isn't likely, since they have pockets on both sides.

    I'd probably have gone for Carradice* if I didn't have my Arkels.

    * Actually, I did try using two Super C saddlebags, but they weren't large enough.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. steveo
    Member

    I love my Carradice. Get a proper saddle bag.

    I have nothing more sensible to add.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. 14Westfield
    Member

    A while ago Boardman/Halfords did orltleib copies and these can still be bought new off eBay for the criminally cheap sum of £10 delivered.

    I have a pair that have done a years commuting without complaint and are still fully waterproof etc.

    The basic clips are sturdy but by splashing out a further £10, ql1 quick release hooks can be added as they use the same rail.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. Darkerside
    Member

    Ditto Carradice SuperC. The only part of a Carradice thing that's ever failed on me was the velcro eventually getting less velcro-ey on the rack-top bag. And they set me a bunch of free straps and buckles to replace it.

    The rear panniers are properly massive. Consider the A4 size if you're not, say, moving house.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I love my Carradice.

    Yours is an impressive bag.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. unhurt
    Member

    @steveo are you CCE's version of an Instagram Social Influencer now? Can we look forward to carefully posed selfies with waxed canvas accoutrements taken in exotic & carefully framed locations?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. steveo
    Member

    Only if Carradice sponsor me to be in cold windswept places at this time of year! There is a Chinese company making really nice looking saddle bags too, might have a word :)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. rbrtwtmn
    Member

    This is quite a list. I knew it was worth asking the combined brain of CCE! Who'd have thought that pannier recommendations would raise such passion?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. Darkerside
    Member

    Don't get overexcited - you're still lagging behind the thread asking people to look for stripey snails :p

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. SRD
    Moderator

    our ortleib developed an extended tear today.

    Have ordered arkels on combined recommendation of arellcat and unhurt (15% off this weekend).

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. gembo
    Member

    Did take a look at the Arrkel page there. Many lovely items. Some of the new era bags that hang off the saddle on aluminium frames look weirdly overly engineered? But the main panniers look great, if pricey even with the fifteen percent off. Lifetime guarantee though is something not to be sniffed at. Even on the really light ones that look quite flimsy. I also liked their non-structured handlebar bag that comes with the strap.

    However what I am asking the hive mind about is a new Bento Box for Mrs Garto to buy me for my Christmas. My old bento box which has seen much use is a Topeak one which sits on the top tube like a. Very small loaf of bread. Easy access, waterproof cover that can also be tucked away for when not raining which seems slightly unnecessary, my issue with it is chafing. My bibshorts all have little tears and abrasions in them as the Gembo thigh makes contact with the bento box. So I am in the market for a more tapered bento box that would be more wedge shaped and taper up from a small surface area near the thigh contact zone to a bigger area at the handlebar stem. Anyone know what I mean?

    A quick google suggests number of manufacturers all going for the design I am seeking. They don't emphasise the anti-chafe, rather, the aero look which is hilarious.

    Also further design feature on some brands where they click into the top tube, I am guessing some sort of eyelet needed. The others use the Velcro straps which are my prime suspects for the chafing. Hard to judge on-line and I bet the shops will have little choice....

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. SRD
    Moderator

    yes, arkels (and ortleibs) definitely pricey, but ours function like a car boot - so i consider them essential, not a luxury.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. gembo
    Member

    Yes @srd, the lifetime guarantee from Arrkel is something I would like to hear more about, e.g. Exemptions, as one big expensive buy does work out cheaper in Boots Economics Theory than multiple cheaper purchases over time

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. SRD
    Moderator

    um. can someone explain how they connect to my pannier rack?

    they look very nice and i like the padded shoulder strap, but i can't figure out the hooks/handle gizmo.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Lift using the little handle between the top hooks, hook the bottom hook onto the rack, pull up to simultaneously open the sprung top hook retainers (which press upwards on the underside of the top rail of the rack) and drop the top hooks onto the top rail and release. Your pannier should then be locked onto the top rail and the bottom of the rack.

    To release, just lift using the little handle and swing away from the rack.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. SRD
    Moderator

    yeah, thats what the instructions say. also watched a youtube video. managed to (sort of) get one pannier on (hook doesn't fit small rack very well).

    however, I have just looked at the other one of the pair and maybe figured out the problem. it looks like the handle needs to under the little flap of handle strap? so that the strap bit runs in the right direction. mine wasn't pulling the cams up.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Mine look like this:


    (click to embiggen)

    Posted 5 years ago #

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