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Light sequence at Kings Junction

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  1. SRD
    Moderator

    I cannot figure out what's going on with these lights since the resurfacing. Anyone else?

    Is it a permanent and intentional change? or have they just not been reset properly?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. Arellcat
    Moderator

    What's the odd behaviour of the lights, SRD? I haven't passed that way for a while.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. jdanielp
    Member

    I was surprised by unusual timing this evening, but that was the first time I had passed at commuter time for a week or so. Waiting in the ASZ on Gilmore Place, the main light seemed to turn green with the left onto Home Street light so I missed out on making the right turn onto Leven Street before the Tarvit Street traffic got going.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. SRD
    Moderator

    @arellcat: as jdanielp says: "Waiting in the ASZ on Gilmore Place, the main light seemed to turn green with the left onto Home Street light".

    The interesting thing, is that coming the other way, from Tarvit, it seems to work better. i.e. you can head straight across, and the cars in the turn lane just sit there. I suppose they will learn the new system eventually, but for now, it's quite good.

    It took me a while to work out what was going on - I kept thinking I'd not paid attention or had missed something.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. jdanielp
    Member

    The sequence seemed to be normal this morning. Vehicles were turning left onto Home Street opposite me for a good few seconds before our lights turned green, seemingly in time with the main light turned green opposite, although I took advantage of fairly light traffic to turn right from Tarvit Street and then left onto Lochrin Place rather than head along Gilmore Place. I seem to remember having been occasionally caught out by similar traffic light behaviour to that which I described above on occasions in the past.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. SRD
    Moderator

    How odd. when I came through sometime between 9.30 and 10, there was definitely no turn light.

    I was reflecting upon how nice it was to be able to use the entire ASZ, rather being crammed into the righthand section, especially as a Lothian bus took the corner unusually badly just as the light turned.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. ejstubbs
    Member

    I've not been through that junction recently but I have noticed at least one other instance of a light sequence (pedestrian light at west end of Haymarket tram stop) being out of whack recently. The pedestrian light would sit on red for a prolonged period even after a tram had departed in each direction within the last thirty seconds and the tram position light signal had reverted to danger. If there's no tram due, it should be on green.

    There was a cooncil van there a few weeks back and a gadgie fiddling about with something inside the control box. That seemed to fix it for a while, but I've observed it being been flaky again a few times in the last few days.

    I begin to wonder whether some council cost-saving on traffic signal controls may be at the root of such unhelpful and potentially dangerous behaviour.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. rbrtwtmn
    Member

    I may well be completely wrong, but my memory of the King's junction is that it has always varied in the exact timing - just as described - I'd thought this would have been due to time of day. Just a possibility that you've hit it at an unusual time...
    Although to be fair I don't remember it the way you describe in the recent past.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    Back to 'normal' today.

    (@rbrtwtmn I don't recall that ever).

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Been normal all week heading east for me.

    Normal as in squashed between two buses in the ASZ

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. DrAfternoon
    Member

    I experienced the changed sequence today around 11am after being normal yesterday. Turning right, heading east from Gilmore, went straight to full green with no left filter before. Definitely something up, deliberate or not.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. jdanielp
    Member

    It did this again to me today a little after 4 pm. More to come in Today's Rubbish Driving...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. LaidBack
    Member

    I saw two versions of sequence tonight.

      1. I headed into right hand turn lane. Couldn't get to ASL as already occupied by spillover from last phase. Didn't want to go ahead as bus had difficulty going round and I would have been in path of turn. There was a left filter first as bus went round.
      2. Previous filyered phase didn't clear so I went on left lane to try and get ahead of another car in ASL. Lights went green with no left filter and I made it through spillover queuing traffic at Kings. Rest of traffic stuck (by traffic).

    Saw other cyclist just walk over lights as doesn't really work as a route. No use for newbies.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    This morning went to green with no delay for cars coming from Tarvit so nearly got caught out badly

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. jdanielp
    Member

    I managed to launch myself from Tarvit Street right onto Home Street on a Just Eat Bike before the traffic waiting to turn left from Gilmore Place was able to react just now. I assume that the lights changed as one.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. prog99
    Member

    No filters yesterday morning either but fortunately the traffic was quiet.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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