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Scottish Budget 2019/20 (now mostly about workplace parking)

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  1. chdot
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    Finally, after months of hard work and Green pressure for local tax reform and protection of local services, we have reached a budget agreement between @scotgp and @scotgov. This is what constructive politics looks like. #leadingthechange

    https://twitter.com/patrickharvie/status/1090977709751181313

    We’ll know more soon enough.

    Not expecting any WOWs.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Workplace parking levy.

    That is a WOW (if the details are any good).

    Sarah Boyack tried that 20 years ago when she was Transport Minister, but didn’t even get support of own party.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  3. chdot
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  4. paulmilne
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  5. chdot
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  6. jdanielp
    Member

    :)

    Posted 2 months ago #
  7. LaidBack
    Member

    So we have a Holyrood budget passed only with the intervention of Greens. They get parking levy, tourist tax* and other items included as SNP have to compromise. This is good as how politics should work.
    Meanwhile our lame media can't reflect this. STV didn't ask for an SG representative.
    Will the new BBC Scotland channel redress the balance and actually reflect that we've been living in a different country politically for a few years now? I wouldn't bet on it.
    https://www.thenational.scot/news/17401032.scottish-greens-bizarrely-left-out-of-stv-budget-debate-with-snp-and-tories/

    *edit: Tourist tax supported by SNP Adam McVey but encouraged by Andy Wightman. A joint effort?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  8. Stickman
    Member

    Parking levy already getting people irate; the SNP will walk this back and it won’t happen.

    LibDems taking their usual clear-cut decisive position:

    http://www.scotlibdems.org.uk/rennie_comments_on_proposed_parking_charges

    Posted 2 months ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    “the SNP will walk this back and it won’t happen“

    It’s now up to LAs to use - or not.

    CEC Adam saying on telly ‘will take 18 months to sort details’.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Parking levy already getting people irate

    Front page of the Scottish Daily Mail: 'Triple SNP Tax Whammy on your work parking place'.

    What proportion of Scotd have a work parking place? Five? Ten?

    What proportion of their employers would pass any levy on to the employees concerned rather than burying it in general costs?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    C'mon, why would anyone want to pay the real cost of driving their car? Far better to get us and our children to pay

    Posted 2 months ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    “why would anyone want to pay the real cost of driving their car?”

    And so much more -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19429

    Posted 2 months ago #
  13. chdot
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  15. Stickman
    Member

    It’s being branded as the Poll Tax on Wheels by Tories (brushing over that they were the ones that introduced the Poll Tax).

    Labour also appear to be opposing it, despite a Labour government introducing these powers in England in 2009 (and the Tories have never repealed it).

    SNP MSPs are already distancing themselves from it by saying it’s for councils to implement it, nothing to do with them guv.

    The LibDems are being the LibDems.

    Sensible grown up politics from all sides.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    There's no point undermining the car fantasy if you're just trying to get elected. The Greens surely already have that vote stitched up?

    Cities not designed primarily for motor traffic are not yet in the Overton window. It's our job to get those ideas into the mainstream so that machine politicians have votes to chase?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  17. chdot
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  19. chdot
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    Headline better than first par (often other way round!)

    Motorists face paying up to £10 a week to park at work in Scotland’s capital after finance secretary Derek Mackay caved in to Green Party demands for a “parking tax”.

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/council-leader-backs-parking-tax-as-derek-mackay-defends-policy-1-4869241

    Posted 2 months ago #
  20. chdot
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  21. Stickman
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  22. Frenchy
    Member

    She's genuinely being wilfully obtuse here, isn't she?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  23. HankChief
    Member

    On a crusade but not proposing anything to solve it....

    I've tried to take her to task on it...

    https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1094934071451570177?s=19

    Posted 2 months ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    Think this all needs its own thread(s?) now.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

  26. Rosie
    Member

    @Stickman - Jardine's article is another indication of politicising around the CCWEL, which the LibDem Cllr for Corstorphine/Murrayfield, Gillian Gloyer, tried to delay. Cycling is not popular in her ward (or at least not in the Murrayfield CC), so now they oppose something that the LibDems have always supported - more local control.

    Gavin Corbett is furious on twitter at the hypocrisy and chasing the Daily Mail vote.
    https://twitter.com/gavincorbett/status/1095595642158829568

    Posted 2 months ago #
  27. Rosie
    Member

    A dozen organisations, including WWF Scotland and Friends of the Earth Scotland, have sent a letter to the leaders of the five parties at Holyrood urging them to get behind the scheme

    https://stv.tv/news/politics/1435480-workplace-parking-fees-would-improve-public-health/

    Posted 2 months ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    Vote loser for national politicians who have referred this to local politicians where let me think, ah yes, it is a vote loser.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  29. Rosie
    Member

    Edinburgh workplace parking tax: Council leader accused of waging ‘aggressive war on motorists’
    If it’s a war, all the casualties are on one side because of the far superior fire power. In the First Gulf War that was called a turkey shoot.
    “Conservative transport spokesman Cllr Nick Cook said: “The council leader’s statement lays bare his administration’s increasingly aggressive war on the motorist. “Thousands of public sector employees, such as teachers and workers on the minimum wage, would be hammered by this unfair tax.”

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-workplace-parking-tax-council-leader-accused-of-waging-aggressive-war-on-motorists-1-4873711

    Posted 2 months ago #
  30. Rosie
    Member

    Alastair Dalton, who normally is a Goodie not a Baddy, supports the workplace levy.

    Why workplace parking tax is part of a virtuous circle – Alastair Dalton

    The writing is on the wall for unrestrained car use in cities. Glasgow has already launched the first of four planned low emission zones in Scotland, which will see all but vehicles with the cleanest engines banned from pollution hotspots, such as city centres.

    Edinburgh and Glasgow - the councils keenest on a parking levy - see it as a win-win measure, both helping to curb traffic growth while also generating significant income for public transport improvements. Nottingham claims its scheme has done both, and has made more than £50 million in seven years. A promising virtuous circle.

    Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/why-workplace-parking-tax-is-part-of-a-virtuous-circle-alastair-dalton-1-4873400

    Posted 2 months ago #

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