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Crosswind Development - Tech city apparently

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  • Started 5 years ago by HankChief
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  1. HankChief
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  2. chdot
    Admin

    The developers say a lack of suitable office space means Edinburgh has not been seen as a top location for tech companies.

    I think we’ve discussed this one before.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. Rosie
    Member

    To be fair at least the artist's impression shows cars..

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. ARobComp
    Member

    Suppose the tram would still cost £8 to get out there? Bus would cost 4.50?

    How are people meant to get there? It's already a bad choke point at peak times with cars queued all the way back onto the main dual carriageway from the airport. Plus gogar traffic.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. neddie
    Member

    Meanwhile, tech businesses located in Fife struggle to recruit staff, despite locating there "because of the parking".

    These developers seem to live on different planet.

    Talented young tech graduates want to be located in city centres - where all the action is. They don't care about parking spaces or even being near an airport, because most likely they don't own cars and many tech jobs can be done remotely, reducing the need to fly.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. jonty
    Member

    If you look across the world, the one thing young, trendy, well-off tech workers really really want is to live and work in a noisy concrete farm directly next to an airport and miles away from the nearest city centre.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. dougal
    Member

    Need plenty of room for all those ball pits.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. Rosie
    Member

    @neddie, jonty - yeah - this does seem to be a 1980s idea of a business development. Converted warehouses with the original bricks is where your best techs want to go.

    Also, if they do need to fly, it's no big deal to get from the airport to Central Edinburgh.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. jonty
    Member

    Yeah: 30-40mins at all times is an airport proximity some cities would kill for. And if you personally want to fly often, city centre transport links mean that you can choose somewhere to live that's well connected to both.

    I wonder if there's some sort of correlation that the people most likely to fly are also least likely to live close enough to the airport to be affected by it, as they likely to be wealthy enough to be able not to.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. steveo
    Member

    If developers think offices must be in purgatory then the Gyle has loads of empty office space. Tbh though a bank of offices at the airport is probably as good a use as any maybe fifers can work there and save a trip into town, as far as residential lots go I can't image a less desirable area.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. steveo
    Member

    Suppose the tram would still cost £8 to get out there? Bus would cost 4.50?

    Can one use a bus pass to get to the airport without paying the airport surcharge?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    @jonty, "I wonder if there's some sort of correlation that the people most likely to fly are also least likely to live close enough to the airport to be affected by it"

    Possibly, but does not hold true for pilots and aircrew.

    Just scanned the press release (sorry, "article") and man - those "artist's impressions" are SO generic. Could be anywhere, really.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. Stickman
    Member

    @steveo - I used to use my monthly bus pass on the 100 to the airport regularly, but that was several years ago. I don’t know if that still applies.

    @crowriver - the airlines already have a lot of rental flats for aircrew around Corstorphine, and probably elsewhere in west Edinburgh. I imagine they would snap up a lot of flats in any new development.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. ejstubbs
    Member

    @steveo: Can one use a bus pass to get to the airport without paying the airport surcharge?

    Yes, you can take the tram or an Airlink or Skylink bus to the airport on a Ridacard at no extra charge.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. Rosie
    Member

    @jonty - My colleagues fly to London frequently. None of them would choose to live near the airport - they want to live somewhere nice.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    “None of them would choose to live near the airport”

    That’s not “near the airport”.

    It’s AT the airport!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. jonty
    Member

    Looking at the image in the article, the nearest tram stop would probably be Edinburgh Gateway, so standard fare. Airport stop is (literally?) miles away.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. Frenchy
    Member

    Wrong thread.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. ejstubbs
    Member

    @jonty: Good point. I hadn't looked at that image before. Theoretically could make commuting by train from North of the river easier too.

    I hadn't realised that they were planning to close the crosswind runway. Good for us since it means no more night flights approaching directly over our house when the main runway is closed for maintenance! But does it mean that the proposed second runway parallel to the current main one is going ahead? Can't realistically see them managing the traffic volumes they seem to be forecasting with no contingency runway capacity.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. neddie
    Member

    The crosswind runway has been shut for a good while. It's currently being used as a plane parking lot.

    No need for them to build any more runways, as the amount of flying will need to reduce massively over the next 11 years**

    **Oh, wait, that's a different reality to the one our current powers-that-be live in!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. acsimpson
    Member

    It's mostly being used for car parking rather than planes. A security fence has been built across it just incase any of the cars are sentient.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin


    Car use will be minimised by focusing on the provision of cycling and walking.

    It says here -

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/digital-quarter-old-runway-edinburgh-airport-could-create-thousands-jobs-1342924

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    I had to collect a parcel recently from the TNT depot on Turnhouse Rd. The smell (and taste) of partially combusted kerosene was cloying.

    'Green corridor' my bahookie.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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