Oh no. Hope it isn’t serious.
“Police Scotland were called to the incident at 8.45am today (Tuesday) at the junction of Leith Walk and Iona Street to a collision between a cyclist and a van.”
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oh no - this is horrible news - I really hope they are ok.
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Hope the cyclist is ok.
I'm not quite sure how it's possible to hit a cyclist there heading down Leith Walk - at least heading up I could believe the driver pulled out of Iona Street without looking...
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I get a Royal Mail story from 2003 when I click that link...
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That's the bit where the cycle lane going North does that wee swerve into a narrower lane isn't it? Goes around a few loading bays.
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Yes me too. This link seems to work
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/traffic-and-travel/leith-walk-closed-after-cyclist-hit-by-van-1-4940434
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Awful news! With the road closed, I fear the worst.
Iona St. is where they've made a kind of very poorly designed pseudo-continuous pavement.
The priorities are unclear here, with a give-way line before the footway, but then the carriageway continuing across the footway in the normal manner (except being raised to footway level). Add in a contraflow cycle lane...
The usual British incompetent roads designers' guddle.
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The cyclist has been taken to hospital by ambulance, and officers have shut off part of the road northbound at Pilrig Street while enquiries are ongoing.“
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/live-updates-leith-walk-closes-16374871
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https://twitter.com/RadioForthNews/status/1135858849943052288
We're now up to "seriously injured". And Radio Forth is reporting it as an "accident"... *sigh*
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“Serious but not life-threatening”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-48511817
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The priorities are unclear here
Are the priorities not completely clear? The give way lines are on the road, not the footway, and look obvious to me, albeit not accompanied by the usual sign.
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Are the priorities not completely clear?
No.
This below is what continuous footway done well looks like. It is completely clear who has priority.
https://www.cycling-embassy.org.uk/dictionary/continuous-footway
No sweeping kerb-lines, no double reds sweeping around the curves. Continuous footway surface, not continuous carriageway surface. No tactiles on the pedestrian side. Properly steep ramp for vehicles.
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See also:
https://departmentfortransport.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/continuous-paths-across-minor-junctions/
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In the UK, give way lines are defined as meaning "Give way to traffic on major road." They don't mean 'give way to pedestrians' or 'give way to bicycles on cycle track as you come off a major road' or, as used on cycle paths, 'oooh, gets a bit complicated here, watch out.'
Using them for these purposes is more or less OK depending on the purpose, but it is hard to complain when a line which means 'give way to traffic' is not interpreted to mean something else when used on a road which in every other way looks like same as most other roads.
Of course we still have no idea if any of this is relevant to this incident or not. But it's very relevant to how we design streets in the city over the next decade.
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I wish they could have redesigned Iona street and definitely Albert street in the same way they Middlefield. They would probably argue that the traffic number for these two streets are way to high, but it would have made priority a lot clearer.
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Awful news about the accident:( Hope they are OK.
But I am so glad it's not just me finding that junction confusing. Sometimes I have rehearsals on Iona St. I have given up trying to figure out and navigate that junction and now I only access Iona St from Easter Rd.
Are bikes allowed to turn right into Iona St when heading north down Leith Walk? As @neddie pointed out there is the contraflow bike lane:
https://goo.gl/maps/eukD2A76r3yEWnhr8
But I am not sure if it just for the left turn from Leith Walk.Posted 5 years ago # -
Are bikes allowed to turn right into Iona St when heading north down Leith Walk?
There's no signs to say you're not allowed to, so I presume it's fine, if difficult.Posted 5 years ago # -
Middlefield
Ah, yes. I knew there was an almost-good example somewhere on Leith Walk:
https://goo.gl/maps/Gtwogsi5peYARS537
Not quite perfect though, as the double reds sweep round the corners, which combined with the cobbles* (where the white triangles are) makes it look to drivers like you're entering a road rather than crossing a foot-/cycle-way.
The white triangles are also missing from the Middlefield side and the ramp there is not steep enough to deter fast vehicles passing the blind corner (wall). Edit - just seen it's one-way.*These cobbles would have been better kept as flagstones similar to the footway.
I'm sure that Spokes commented to this effect on all the continuous-footway designs on this section of LW, but were of course ignored by the incompetent roads designers.
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