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Electric scooters
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Had a young laddie racing me on an e-Scooter on the path between Prestonpans and Cockenzie this evening. Those things can fairly go! Glad I had a tailwind at that point
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have pretty much stopped using mine - fear of 3 points from the reasonable chaps at polis alba has done for me.
Will be moving in a month or so to within a few 100m of NEPN, will restart when I know I can get there with minimal chance of being nabbed.
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FM pictured on a Pure e-scooter in tabloid. Unionists are raging that she hasn't been arrested.
Scoot free. FM dodges rap for illegal ride!
Posted 2 years ago # -
#IstandwithNicola
on my electric scooter which I am mostly too scared to ride for fear of points from polis alba
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Always carry a small box of pakora. If the polis come after you, chuck the pakora at them. This will distract them long enough for you to make good your escape.
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@urchaidh, genius. Limmy might Nick that. I see he has caused some clicking on EEN by saying
Am no sayin there’s anything wrang wi it. it’s just no Scotland.
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“it’s just no Scotland.“
Pakora more Scottish than electric scooters…
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Yes I think in a head to head Pakora wins most Scottish.
Remember the fad for Pakora Bars?
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If the polis come after you, chuck the pakora at them
These days, they might shoot you dead for that :-/
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@neddie, yes, if I was a young black man in London I would hesitate to use the pakora defence.
Up here Tazer?
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@gembo the idea was already nicked, by me, from http://www.naden.de/blog/bbvideo-bbpress-video-plugin -->
[+] Embed the video | Burniston's Quality Polis" target="_blank">Video Download Get the Video Player Fond(ish) memories of Murphy's Pakora Bar in Glasgow. Combining the key elements of a good night out - drinking and eating deep fried spicy food - into one was a work of genius.
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@urchaidh, Any rolls?
I was also a customer of Murphy’s 1990
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@gembo, Nae rolls.
Wondering if our paths ever crossed 30 odd years ago.
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@urchaidh, I stayed up the Belhaven Tce, used to be able to see Rikki Fulton playing darts with Sean Connery over the road. 1990-92. Hill head St, Prnices St and Maryhill road 1983-1987.
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Micro - the makers of many a fancy folding scooter (and also electric scooters) are moving into the electric vehicle market...
https://microlino-car.com/en/microlinoVery reminiscent of the Isetta of days gone by.
I think is looks fantastic.Posted 2 years ago # -
That is a very short car. Sweet. Ideal for anyone commuting into Edinburgh in a single occupant vehicle
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perhaps HES could buy a couple and run a taxi service up the High Road in them?
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At least the photo doesn't conform to 'angry people in local newspapers' standards
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For once, the comments below that article are vaguely sane, and I actually have to grudgingly admit to agreeing with some of the points made.
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Are they though? "They're a danger to all and should be banned" doesn't sound all that sane or reasonable to me. The others just seem to be slagging him off for knowing his rights and anticipating a potential problem - he might well have run into the issue before and decided to make sure he was equipped in case of a repetition. The only correct thing in the comments is the one simply restating the law on using them, but the law on using them is A: dumb AF, and B: utterly irrelevant to *transporting* them - a lot of off-roaders are illegal to use on the roads, but if the polis tried to lift someone for moving one from place-to-place on a properly secured and legal trailer on the basis that it was technically possible the owner was going to take it somewhere it shouldn't be, I'll bet you a fiver those exact commenters would be rabble-rabbling themselves puce.
The man's also perfectly correct that there's nothing inherently dangerous about e-scooters that doesn't apply to all battery-electric transport, indeed pretty much all modern battery-electric devices full stop - are Scotrail going to ban phones and laptops in case one of them goes on fire? Not to mention that if they actually go through with this bollocks of banning e-scooters aboard because of a fire risk, there's no way they can *legally* get away with that unless they do the same to ebikes. Electric wheelchair users will probably be fine thanks to equalities legislation, but everything you can say about the risk of an unridden, turned-off, stored e-scooter also applies to ebikes and I'm fairly sure we don't want those banned from trains, no?
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are Scotrail going to ban phones and laptops in case one of them goes on fire?
Not for nothing was the Apple Powerbook 5300 nicknamed the 'desktop hibachi'.
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From the National Rail Conditions of Travel:
"23.6. Items that are not permitted to be carried on passenger trains:
Item
Motorcycles; mopeds; motor scooters"I think that's what you call a head shot
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And even if it's thought an e-scooter is different to a motor scooter:
"23.5. Items only permitted at the discretion of individual Train Companies:
Item
Mobility Scooters.
Canoes; surfboards; sailboards.
Skis and ski-boards; golf equipment; other sports equipment except where shown as not permitted below.
Musical Instruments exceeding these dimensions, 30 x 70 x 90 cm
Unloaded firearms, properly licensed, with prior permission of the Train Company and carried in accordance with the law and any other specific instructionsPosted 2 years ago # -
I don't see how. Firstly, if it were, Scotrail would simply have referred to it when A; he asked, B; he phoned CS, C; when they commented on the article saying that there was no policy on e-scooters.
IANAL but "Motor scooters" surely can't refer to e-scooters because e-scooters didn't exist when that legal category was created. "Motor scooters" refers to Vespa-style vehicles.
EDIT: And as to your second point - you'd have to argue that an e-scooter is sports equipment. I'm not aware of any sports based on them, they're a form of transport. In fact, it could be argued that when folded and stowed, it's not even that, it's merely luggage.
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Do e-scooters (perhaps those not treated as mobility equipment) fall into the category of 'mechanically propelled', in the same way that an electric car would?
The problem is, simply carrying an e-scooter onboard a train is not necessarily demonstrating intent to use it at one's destination; presumption of a subsequent action is a murky area. It is luggage. It could have just been bought in a shop in a different city; it could be being transported as a present for someone else. If the concern is safety owing to potential fire then there has to be a policy for other devices or types of transport with similar battery technologies.
Conditions of Travel are normally based around the size or unwieldiness of something (which is why people trying to take bikes onboard trains sometimes end up in arguments with train guards) or the presence of flammable contents (which is why you can't bring your motorbike on a train not otherwise designed for it), both in the sense that it may cause harm to a person or the train or the PW.
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For me the weird thing here is the *driver* was apparently swanning about looking under seats for troubling items. Is that part of their job? I only rarely see them out of the cab and only then during driver changeovers/switching ends.
Makes me wonder whether these two have previous.
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Today I learned that you can only take a cello on the train at the discretion of the train company... probably not a trombone or a tuba either.
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