CycleAlex can probably be more accurate than I can, but I gather it's neither the council nor the developers fault - it's relating to the TRO paperwork to legally make it a cycle lane, which I think is handled by the Scottish government. Before that's in place, it's technically still a pavement.
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Picardy Place lanes taking shape
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@EdinburghCycleCam Indeed - the council has legal advice saying they shouldn't open it until the DPEA process has concluded. Of course they shouldn't really have built anything without a valid redetermination order but alas...
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The council is not undertaking the work, the developers are. The council sponsored the TRO process and is funding the work (though it is ultimately being paid for by Scottish government funding via the GAM deal).
It's the contractors working for the developers who put the barriers and signs there. They didn't have to. As I said, it's a "take that, cyclists!" gesture.
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Had sight of some of the tracks on Eilean Beag Nam Marbh as I passed today. Very hard to imagine what they might actually be intended to achieve.
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As I said, it's a "take that, cyclists!" gesture.
As a further gesture, yesterday morning the contractor (I assume) had placed 3 Cat Eye insert type bollards over the South Bound Exit to the cycleway on Leith Street, again to try to dissuade cyclist from using the safer, segregated way. One of the bollards had been removed to allow continued access. I do not know how that happened.
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I am confuzled, why is central government involved?
It's a local road (for local people), so I would have thought that it would be the local council as local roads authority that deals with TROs here, as it's not a trunk road?
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Objections to the TRO or RSO led to a Government-level enquiry, I think.
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“ I do not know how that happened.“
I wondered that about an hour ago.
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The smaller island at Leith Street/Picardy Place is open now (although still using temp lights rather than the permanent ones).
Didn't realise the area next to the St James Centre was going to be shared use - that can only be fun when it's busy...
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Climate change hitting hard.
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That big guy (well who knows how tall he is but he rides a bike wearing stilts) Is who I nominate to open this circus. PICARDY CIRCUS
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Stilts guy is Michael Angelo. Not that tall off stilts. If we can get him to lead a jazz funeral band in cargo bikes round and round the Hellscape we will have some small reason to be pleased with ourselves.
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Given the number of times this suggestion has come up *(the jazz band) I do think we need to make it happen. I am happy to take part if we are allowed onto the Picardy Circus Course before it opens to cars as I am going nowhere near it after that.
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The council is looking for street name suggestions, I made a few. I also suggested for the different stretches of the Gyratory
Graeme Obree Way and Mark Beaumont Boulevard
Anyone can propose a name for the bank, which is now online. Why not take a look for inspiration. Just email streetnaming@edinburgh.gov.uk with your suggestions.
My favourites in the Bank already - Bert Jansch, Eric "Winkle" Brown and Cornelius Waugh (though he was a Tory I do like the name).
Might add Harald Tobermann as that is another name I like.
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Hellscape gridlocked in the Stygian gloom. Taking shape nicely. One island for each of Satan's own buttocks.
On the upside I can't see anyone parking in the islands' cycle lanes . Neither can I see anyone cycling on them.
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If I need a cycle lane for anything there it would be for getting from Leith Walk direction to York Place. At the moment this means right-hand lane on the approach by the playhouse then mysteriously crossing to the left lane by Cathedral Lane BUT without getting squidged by one of the buses or lorries using all available roadwidth to make the sharply-angled turns. I'll need to go there on foot and look at it to see what's possible. It might be very slightly better when there are no impassable barriers at the road edges but that won't be until the island settlement of containers and the odd wee wooden shed are vacated.
Years ago I would mostly avoid Haymarket and the two Leith Walk roundabouts on the grounds of being least likely to come off best in any lane-change disagreements, but Picardy Place combines the worst of lane-changing and tailswinging.
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Big up to the cute wooden shed. I hope it stays.
My bus this morning stuck its wing mirror through the rear windscreen of the bus in front as I admired the Hellscape. Nobody seemed too bothered. Possible that it is instinctively recognised as terra nullius.
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@wingpig, why not just weave around any blockade barriers or cones on the cycleway at the Playhouse and follow that southwards and around until you are crossing Leith St northbound, and just re-emerge into traffic there? It might take a little longer, but would probably be less hassle?
(As a general rule, I am not impressed by any cycle diffacilities that take longer to navigate than just following the road, but I've never liked the combination of steep uphill and also trying to turn right at this roundabout (probably one reason, now that I think of it, that I almost always go up Leith St when going that direction, although I have sometimes come from the George St / York Pl direction), but I will personally be glad when that particular cycleway is properly open.)
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Several people illegally parked in the taxi rank/loading bay and on DYLs causing pain for buses. I’m shocked I tell you, shocked.
@davecykl If anything the cycle lane there will probably be quicker than the road given the absence of traffic lights.
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The ASZ on the turn from the Cathedral towards Leith Walk is inaccessible in heavy traffic. I had to turn across the pedestrian crossing from lane two to get into it this morning.
Not even sure why there is one if I'm intended to use the Toytown lanes somehow but even so.
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Backed up from the Bridges to the Hellscape today. Problem seemed to be too many cars.
Passed my boss's bus as it turns out and got into the office fully twenty minutes before him.
Got a bit of a fright filtering down Leith Street as I didn't reckon on the private hire cab coming the other way doing so at 40 in a 20 zone which will learn me.
What an absolute mess they are creating with all that borrowed money. I do hope the predicted economic growth material no hang on doesn't materialise.
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Today
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PGR alert. More an old-fashioned rotary mincer/grater than a blender?
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I am rapidly closing on the balaclava, angle-grinder, thermite phase of cycle campaigning.
Deliver those steel fences back to city chambers while the cut ends are still hot.
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I saw those guys this morning and wondered what they were up to.
Pedestrians once again corralled into pens waiting on staggered crossings to traverse the traffic flow inferno and wash up at the Traffic Island Of Lost Souls...
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Also
Is this in any design manual??
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I am rapidly closing on the balaclava, angle-grinder, thermite phase of cycle campaigning.
Deliver those steel fences back to city chambers while the cut ends are still hot.
You'd better be fast. Within a few months they'll fall foul of their poor situational awareness and be mangled by a driver.
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I see that someone has now updated OpenStreetMap to show the island of the dead...
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Except the island itself is missing. I don't see a desert tag either.
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