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Picardy Place lanes taking shape

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  • Started 4 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from CycleAlex

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  1. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    If they use it as a builders' yard for two years it'll be trashed by the heavy machinery. I can't even pretend to believe there is a controlling mind behind this project unless it's that of a drunk Situationist sculptor.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    speaking of sculptors, I presume that means no Paolozzi until '22

    Every cloud, eh, iwrats?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. crowriver
    Member

    I'll be very happy to see the Paolozzis stay at Hillside Crescent for the foreseeable. It's a more sympathetic site.

    As for the Traffic Island Of Lost Souls, the longer ordinary humans are banished from entering therein, the better.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. the canuck
    Member

    "the canuck - any way you could jump on a hire bike, even for part of the trip? I've found them useful for one-way trips, or killing part of a long walk. Might be handy even just to get you past the city centre, so you can grab a bus that should make reasonable progress."

    I was having an injection on my hip, and wasn't sure how well I'd be moving after, so didn't want to be relying on my own body for movement. :)

    in the end, i was ok with the bus and a little walking.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. Morningsider
    Member

    the canuck - yikes! Possibly not my best suggestion. Hope you are feeling okay.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. CycleAlex
    Member

    York Place is open and the final road layout is pretty much in operation minus a few missing traffic lights.

    There’s an early release cycle signal on Broughton Street -> Picardy Place but for some reason it’s positioned to the left of the other lights instead of below. Because of that people seem to be thinking it’s a left turn filter light.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    Does this go to the new tram workspace?

    https://twitter.com/streetwurrier/status/1201177672778428420

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. CycleAlex
    Member

    @chdot It's a temp connection towards Leith Walk until tram works are finished - https://www.tellmescotland.gov.uk/attachments/16/1549377737/18-64%20Proposed%20Plans%20A%20%26%20B.pdf (centre of second sheet)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. wingpig
    Member

    Those block-paving sections don't feel very nice in the wet. Dread to think what they'll be like on frosty mornings.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. jonty
    Member

    There’s an early release cycle signal on Broughton Street -> Picardy Place but for some reason it’s positioned to the left of the other lights instead of below. Because of that people seem to be thinking it’s a left turn filter light.

    Sounds like a perfect place for mini-signals then. Why can't Edinburgh use these when London does it all over the place? They would be much better for use at the Kirk Brae/Liberton Brae junction too.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. the canuck
    Member

    "the canuck - yikes! Possibly not my best suggestion. Hope you are feeling okay."

    a bike would always be my first suggestion too! I really missed having the freedom of one.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. jdanielp
    Member

    I had the misfortune of walking past this abomination for the first time in a long time on Saturday afternoon. What a mess! At least it made for relatively easy (if not safe) road crossings given the backed up traffic.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Went through on the bus this morning (taking my pet snake to the vet after work) and there are arrows near the cathedral that I suspect are aimed at cyclists that are possibly odder than the small intestine thing on the north side.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. jdanielp
    Member

    @IWRATS you have a pet snake? What kind of snake is it?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @jdanielp

    My boss is from another culture and I told him I was taking my snake to the vet as an explanation for not cycling.

    Actually I am playing snooker after work.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. unhurt
    Member

    Why are snooker and cycling incompatible?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. jonty
    Member

    Very hard to get your aim right and you usually end up scratching the table.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. unhurt
    Member

    I may have set myself up for that one. Advantage @jonty

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @unhurt

    They could be made compatible;

    *Lycra/Goretex evening dress/dickie-bow outfit
    *Special trailer adapted to take three-quarter length cue in case.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. unhurt
    Member

    Mount cue to front of bike. Prong through Picardy to your snooker appointment.

    (We need to talk about your misuse of the noble semi-colon one of these days. Is this a French thing? Did a full colon startle you as a child?)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. jdanielp
    Member

    @IWRATS ah well. Will remember that for future work-related excuses.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. acsimpson
    Member

    "Is this a French thing?"

    Or is it a C++ thing;

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @unhurt

    Is the colon the list-introducer? It has been many years since I had an English lesson. I was delighted to include French quotation marks - 'guillemets' - in Overlander. I do like those. « »

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. unhurt
    Member

    Yes! semi-colons are noble things but they are not "wide" enough for a list-intro pause. Also: colons introduce an infinitesimally longer pause in prose. Not sure I was ever taught this, it just FEELS* RIGHT.

    The other hill I will die on (at work) is when lists appear like this:

    - some text,
    - some more text and,
    - a final line of text with some more entirely unnecessary punctuation messing with my head.

    It is EVEN WORSE when those list lines end in ;

    As you might guess, I edit other people's writing with a mixture of mild fury and vicious delight. (Teacher genes? The mother, both of her sisters, and their mother were all teachers. Red biro ink may flow in my veins.)

    *IS

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. neddie
    Member

    I was always led to believe that a semi-colon was a list separator.

    So you can write: I hate cars because they emit noxious fumes; they take up all the space; they all have non-matching colours, or; they are invisible matt black; and they suck.

    Happy to stand corrected.

    <neddie now runs away>

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    «IWARTS stays put»

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. neddie
    Member

    @unhurt

    If you write a list using bullets or dashes, what should you terminate the lines in? And should you capitalise the first word in the line?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. neddie
    Member

    Additional question for bonus points:

    If you write a list with dashes and no termination on the lines in some sort of consultation survey, what happens when the text sanitising code of the webpage takes out all the line breaks?

    You end up with:

    - my list point1- my list point2- this is a hard to read list

    which I imagine becomes a bit of a nightmare for the poor intern that gets the job of trying to "digest" all that information from the general public...

    I've seen this happen to some consultation responses after they've been sent back to me.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    List of bullets¦

    ~this.

    that)
    ¬those
    it

    s>

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. wingpig
    Member

    I was going to say "@unhurt Would it be possible - if not exactly better - nor even strictly acceptable - to imagine it as a series of em-dash-separated sections with the addition of carriage returns for a bullet-pointy visual clarity?" but then dashes were invoked anyway.

    Seeing as they should already be anticipating and coping with various special characters and punctuation in consultation response free-text fields it wouldn't be impossible to save them each as a discrete file, rather than jam it into the same tables as the other responses, unless they're wanting to make it easier to search in conjunction with the other fields. They could always do both and keep the stripped text in a table and the full formatted response in a file for when they need to reprint it with formatting.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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