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Picardy Place lanes taking shape

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  1. unhurt
    Member

    I was always led to believe that a semi-colon was a list separator.

    So you can write: I hate cars because they emit noxious fumes; they take up all the space; they all have non-matching colours, or; they are invisible matt black; and they suck.

    Happy to stand corrected.

    <neddie now runs away>

    @neddie semi-colons separating a list written out in a sentence are 100% A-OK. Come back, all is well!

    Lists do not need terminal punctuation! (My dashes were because I have no idea to make bullet points in CCE without breaking the page...) Capitalise or do not capitalise the start of each line as you wish. I cannot speak to text sanitising but would hope that bullet points would be recognised?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  2. acsimpson
    Member

    Does this

      break
    • the
      • page?

    No, or at least not once you put the list tags round it.

    so the code for that rather crass list was as follows (but without the space after the opening brackets):

    [ list]break [ *]the [ /*]page?[ /list]

    Posted 5 years ago #

  3. Arellcat
    Moderator

    1. Three
    2. Two
    3. One

    The forum software really doesn't like nested lists, however, even with properly closing the * list line tags.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  4. unhurt
    Member

    My brain does NOT like this list.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  5. wingpig
    Member

    My brain does:

    • NOT like this list;
      • Like this list;

    Posted 5 years ago #

  6. chrisfl
    Member


    The forum software really doesn't like nested lists, however, even with properly closing the * list line tags.

    I did spend quite some time trying to work out just how the forum deals with lists; I'm still having nightmares.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  7. unhurt
    Member

    @wingpig my brain is not too sure about you now either

    Posted 5 years ago #

  8. the canuck
    Member

    I was going to contribute to the semicolons, but most of my students never reach that level of punctuation, so I'd be running on supposes.

    I went down Leith St to Broughton St last night, and have to say that particular manoeuvre is more straightforward than it used to be.

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  9. wingpig
    Member

    Is it me or is there no light controlling vehicles and their captives leaving the Leith Street arm and heading into people going from the London Road roundabout round to York Place?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  10. jonty
    Member

    Walking past the other day it looks like the traffic management side of things is basically finished now, so the all-important Traffic Flow is back to normal.

    I miss the diagonal crossing at the top of Broughton Street, but I suppose soon you'll be able to walk straight across the island.

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  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I have no idea what's going on now. Folk seemed to be going in all directions and none. When I turned right to head down Leith Walk cars emerged from Broughton street in my direction, hinting that they had green.

    Bulldozer things were just ignoring the lights. The granite setts seemed pretty slippery. Should be lethal in icy conditions.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  12. CycleAlex
    Member

    Their original plan was for that entire side of the Happy Junction Where Happy Things Happen© to be laid with setts so at least that didn't happen!

    I dropped an email to a council officer asking for full res copies of the plans shown in the T&E papers. Ended up getting an email back from a law firm with the plans. Wonder how much that email cost the council in legal fees...

    Posted 5 years ago #

  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The more I see and think about the 'cycle lane' on the south side of the Hellscape which is presumably intended to link York Place and Broughton Street to Leith Street the more I think it would be a very bad idea to actually use it.

    I'm not even sure it would be physically possible at commuting speed.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  14. CycleAlex
    Member

    @IWRATS The one in the smaller island?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The one that is on the north-east corner of the disaster zone. Hadn't actually realised there were two islands.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  16. wingpig
    Member

    When the bus in front of me reached the ASL at the southern apex it stopped, diagonally across both lanes and with its middle over the ASL, whilst traffic (starting with a fellow bus) from Leith Street came through. That bit appears to be an unsignalled junction or sort of roundaboutish, whereas the York Place/Broughton St and Leith Walk interaction sections are traffic lighted. Won't be long before something gets crunched, especially with bankspersonless dumper trucks whooshing about.

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  17. condor2378
    Member

    I went down through the works yesterday, Leith Street going to Elm Row and found it very confusing as to who was going where.

    I think it won't be long until someone is unfortunately killed here, as it appears to be a shambles at the moment of cars flying in from every direction. I'm going to stick to the segregated lane in front of the Omni rather than that death trap.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  18. wingpig
    Member

    I think I'll use the segregated way if I'm going to Princes Street and the lights from the north are red, but heading from Leith Walk to York Place looks like it would involve walking.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  19. CycleAlex
    Member

    When I turned right to head down Leith Walk cars emerged from Broughton street in my direction, hinting that they had green.
    I observed the signals for a few cycles while waiting for my bus and I never observed both have a green but I saw plenty jumping the red from Broughton Street and coming into conflict with Picardy Place --> Leith Walk traffic which had just got the green. I’d imagine that’s what happened here too.

    @wingpig It’s a temporary give way until works on the smaller island are complete. After that, that’ll be signalised too.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  20. CycleAlex
    Member

    Initial plans for the temporary cycle route and pavements on the main island:

    Posted 5 years ago #

  21. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The ASZ on the Leith Street to Leith Walk turn opposite Broughton Street can't actually be accessed in any conventional fashion.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  22. jonty
    Member

    Has the Calton Road-Greenside Place section of cycle track opened? I notice the barriers have disappeared now the adjacent scaffolding has mostly gone.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  23. CycleAlex
    Member

    In theory it should still be closed. I noticed they had put up some 'cyclists dismount' signs next to the path instead of on it.

    Perhaps that satisfies the need to close it while still allowing access should one wish to commit devious criminal acts and use it anyway.

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  24. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    More works vans dumped in the cycle lane and on the footpath just now. I've tweeted @edinhelp and Councillor Claire Miller to see if they can be moved: https://twitter.com/Lollercake/status/1204034657916014593

    I fully expect the cycle lane to be ruined before it's opened...

    Posted 5 years ago #

  25. gembo
    Member

    Whilst I was being Charity Mugged on Picardy place I spotted one of algo's dopplegangers. I was not fooled for long as this was the slightly shorter algo

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  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I guess they can fix the light phasing but at the moment so many automobiles emerge from Broughton Street that motor traffic coming from Leith Street is gridlocked. This is advantageous in that it slows them down but makes their flow chaotic.

    The ASZ is not accessible by any conventional route.

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  27. McD
    Member

    I'm trying to get an update from PP folk for Spokes but they're being awkward. Will be approaching Active Travel Team and am meeting Councillor week after next.
    Had a background meeting re temporary proposals but the detail follow-up is overdue.
    @CycleAlex has done better than me.
    Talking to the Tram programme, there's likely to be further changes and revised Traffic Management when they come to do their work and there doesn't appear to be a completely joined up proposal as yet.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  28. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Traffic backed way up the Bridges. Hateful conduct at the wheel when the motors eventually reached the Hellscape.

    I hope it's worth it in the end pfffft.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  29. davecykl
    Member

    I was down Leith Walk way this morning (on bus/foot), and saw, in the space of a couple of minutes, a good handful of brave folk cycling southwards up Leith Walk / Greenside Place on the road, and not using the (still technically closed) cycleway (which is nevertheless negotiable with only a small amount of zigzagging around barriers).

    That's the part of the climb that I've always hated most, because of the speed difference and traffic density, and general feeling of lack of safety (well, more than normal, anyway). It really is frustrating (and surely some form of endangerment) that the council is being so awkward about not letting the cycleway be used, given that it is essentially complete, but at least none of the drivers were harrassing any of the people cycling, which is something, I suppose.

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  30. crowriver
    Member

    "the council is being so awkward about not letting the cycleway be used"

    The council? Shurely the developers and their contractors acting out of spite? (Ed.)

    "How dare you object to our wonderful gyratory? Take that, cyclists!"

    Posted 5 years ago #

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