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Borders Railway

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  • Started 5 years ago by dessert rat
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  1. dessert rat
    Member

    anyone know how/where I can get a .kmz / .gpx / similar for the Borders Railway ?

    google not helping

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. Frenchy
    Member

    Make one with a site like https://www.justgoride.co.uk/routes/create/ ?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. chrisfl
    Member

    OSM can help.

    Go to - https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/KOx

    Then choose export -> GPX

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    Has re-invigorated Stow. Apparently train better than driving. Commuters sit in same seats but do so for a natter with their new friends. The following is an advert for Stow

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-54030833

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. nobrakes
    Member

    Good to see my next door neighbour Bill being interviewed. He's a lovely chap. Rides a Brompton.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. toomanybikes
    Member

    I use Stow train station quite often, cycle 60-70km down there via Heriot and then get the train back. Tacked on the hill up Earlston Road whilst waiting for the train last weekend and bloody heck that thing is mean.

    Also a fan of cycling to Crossborders Brewery via Carrington and getting the train back from Eskbank.

    Have yet to have an issue with finite cycle spaces on the train but am sure it will happen one day.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. dessert rat
    Member

    Have yet to have an issue with finite cycle spaces on the train but am sure it will happen one day.

    I made the mistake of trying to get on a rush-hour train out of Edinburgh. People standing in the bikes spaces and the guards wouldn't move them "they were here first" is the rule he said.

    Really like the Borders Line, hoping they push it through to Carlisle some day.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. toomanybikes
    Member

    That's frustrating, would have hoped people wouldn't mind moving without the prompting of the guards, but the incredibly hands off nature of the guards on that line has served me well in the past (e.g. 5 bikes on one rack).

    Yeah, pushing it through to Carlisle would be great, mostly for the stops in between there and Tweedbank, e.g. looks like there's some great cycling around Hawick which I've never done before.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    You need to go offf peak

    Only a fule would take his bike on that wee train during rush hour?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. LaidBack
    Member

    @gembo - we took the twin recliner folding tandem on one Saturday at 4.30. Almost like rush hour...

    Standing room only but just kept it in vestibule. Guard was fine - they do seem less aggressive than others. Bike spaces had prams in them.
    Then unfolded at Stow and cycled over hill to Lauder and onto Legerwood.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. Frenchy
    Member

    Tacked on the hill up Earlston Road whilst waiting for the train last weekend and bloody heck that thing is mean.

    Only time I've been to Stow was when I abandoned a longer ride at Lauder because I was knackered. The Lauder-Stow road looked like a good option at that point, on a non-topographical map.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Only a fule would take his bike on that wee train during rush hour?

    Yes, only an absolute idiot would take her recumbent bike on that wee train out of Waverley at 5pm on a weekday and think "It'll be just fine, I'm only going to Shawfair."

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. fimm
    Member

    The only time I've take a bike on the Borders Railway was the time Mr fimm & I took our bikes to Tweedbank and cycled the Four Abbeys Route (recommended). Once on the train it slowly dawned on us that it was the day of the Melrose Sevens. We made very sure that we were back at Tweedbank to get a train before the tournament finished!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    Once when the fountain hall road was closed we went back to Stow and cycled to Galashiels via the sky. So steep is that hill out of stow

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. nobrakes
    Member

    Ach, it’s just a wee bump :)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    What is distance from stow via Heriot to Innerleithen then back to stow via clovenfords. Is that good way to go?

    I have pal who I mentored into cycling and he can go from central edinburgh to Gullane and back now but thought I might introduce some hillage.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. nobrakes
    Member

    @Gembo 40 miles round trip. It’s a good route, yes. Either way is good.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. nobrakes
    Member

    Here’s how you treat the hills out of Stow - add another wheel and you can go as slow as you like. Lovely little ride tonight. Very hilly loop if you’re into that sort of thing.

    https://strava.app.link/mbkLNasdE9

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. gembo
    Member

    Thanks Nobrakes

    My ex boss saying he has a battery in back of his new merc estate. FFS thought easy to get two bikes in, might need to stay local

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. dessert rat
    Member

    looking (was looking, now might be covid cancelled) at doing Markus Stitz's Borders Abbey gravel route at the end of the month, which starts/finishes at Tweedbank.

    However it looks kinda long for 1 day, I am not hardcore enough i don't think.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. toomanybikes
    Member

    Personally, I'd do that loop the other way around, Stow to Clovenfords across the Tweed then over to Innerleithen then up to Heriot, avoids cycling Caddonfoot road uphill, not that it was as busy/fast as I expected it to be when I rode it to be fair.

    Innerleithen to Heriot is the best bit either way round though.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Iain McR

    Mr Stitz is bonkers. Passionate, daring, knowledgeable but quite mad. He doesn't cycle like we do at all.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. gembo
    Member

    Thanks @ toomanybikes I don’t know the caddonfoot clovenfords section

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. toomanybikes
    Member

    @Iain McR have you got a link to the route?

    Found this route when trying to google it, the gravel part South of Gifford on it, I was actually already planning on exploring this weekend https://www.komoot.com/collection/902010/capital-trail

    (though was going to stay on the railway path all the way to West Saltoun and stop in East Saltoun for coffee)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. nobrakes
    Member

    Clovenfords to Caddonfoot is currently coned off and closed to traffic. You can shimmy through on a bike. I also tend to go clockwise because on average I’ve found you get better luck with the wind, but coming the other way gives you that glorious descent from the Granites to Innerleithen if you don’t have a headwind.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. Snowy
    Member

    I've had a headwind that required me to firmly pedal all the way down that descent to Inners. Was not impressed.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. nobrakes
    Member

    Me too, many times. Wind tends to come from the south. That’s the main reason I go clockwise. You get some protection through the trees along the traquair road and a tailwind up to the granites.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    Not supposed to be too windy. I like to go clockwise round the Pentlands to get tailwind at end from Carnwath.

    I do not have the local knowledge but if we go anti-clockwise do we then get a tailwind up through caddonfoot? The same as if we did it clockwise given the route is North South axis?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. nobrakes
    Member

    You might, but I don’t ever recall much wind there. Lots of trees. If you’d gone anti-clockwise today you’d have been on the granny ring going down the granites!

    Today I did a double Innerleithen / Talla loop, 92 miles on the trike. Had a strong headwind pretty much from Innerleithen all the way to the top of Talla. Brutal. Fair flew down to the Gordon Arms afterwards though.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    Old pal has been knocked off bike by dog on Porty Prom so has bailed

    Posted 4 years ago #

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