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Active Travel for All Workshop - 19 October

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  • Started 5 years ago by sallyhinch
  • Latest reply from Tulyar

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  1. sallyhinch
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    This is our latest event from We Walk, We Cycle, We Vote, following on from a series of events we held in Inverness, Edinburgh and Glasgow bringing together cyclists, blind and partially sighted people, and wheelchair users

    As always, it's free but please do register for a place so we can organise the catering

    https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/active-travel-for-everyone-tickets-73548851595

    I've also written a post on the Walk Cycle Vote website about what I've learned over the course of these sessions - http://walkcyclevote.scot/what-do-we-mean-by-active-travel-for-all/

    Posted 5 years ago #

  2. chdot
    Admin

    Edinburgh apparently

    https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/active-travel-for-everyone-tickets-73548851595

    Posted 5 years ago #

  3. sallyhinch
    Member

    Yes, sorry! Edinburgh 19th October

    Posted 5 years ago #

  4. vioforla
    Member

    Hi people, just to add a bit more info about this event, it's Saturday, 19 October, 10am - 3.30pm at the Methodist Church on Nicolson Square.

    The provisional programme includes Kevin Hickman (you may know him as @psyklyn on twitter) on using a cycle as a mobility aid and what inclusive cycling infrastructure looks like; RNIB Scotland on how to design cycle infrastructure that doesn't disadvantage other (more) vulnerable groups; Equality Impact Assessments and how to use them; and responding to the consultations on National Transport Strategy and Strategic Transport Projects Review 2.

    As a campaigner for better provision for cycling, I've often found we are forced into an adversarial position with groups that represent people with disabilities or other vulnerable groups. That position is difficult to win from, and it feels pretty crummy trying. This is an opportunity to build a stronger common campaigning position by understanding and strengthening each other's arguments.

    Hope you can join us!

    Posted 5 years ago #

  5. Snowy
    Member

    Looks really good but sadly we'll not be around.

    Totally agree on your point about the adversarial position. There's definitely an increasing trend for opponents of active travel to resort to one of their new favourite lines - 'but what about disabled people'. It's a classic straw man argument, deliberately suggesting that promoting active travel through a range of measures is somehow incompatible with travel/access for people with disabilities. Unfortunately like many fibs it's an easily repeated meme , and active travel proponents need to rebut and educate against it at every chance.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  6. acsimpson
    Member

    The problem is that they use "disabled" to mean able to drive but not walk far. They deliberately forget that there are many disabilities which are far better served by removing motor vehicles from the urban environment.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  7. neddie
    Member

    It's a classic straw man argument, deliberately suggesting that promoting active travel through a range of measures is somehow incompatible with travel/access for people with disabilities

    See also: "But how will I visit my sick relative?"

    Posted 5 years ago #

  8. unhurt
    Member

    I'd assume the same active travel opponents who are very concerned about blue badge holders would be present in debates about better pavement surfaces / wider pavements / ensuring drop kerbs a. exist and b. aren't parked over / step free access to premises / vastly better accessible toilet provision / etc. etc. etc. And yet... they are mostly not.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  9. Tulyar
    Member

    Had a useful chat with John Dales at the Glasgow Landor Conference - he's on the group working with TRL and DfT for the review of tactile paving standards, and in the process actuallu locating the papers from 20+ years ago when this was last reviewed, including sorting out the wrong decision to put tramline tactile on the cycling side, and ladder tactile on the walking side of segregated routes.

    Pictures of the 2 apparently(?) different standards used on Leith Street/Leith Walk would be useful - Glasgow Sauchiehall St is different again, as is Leicester's cycle route delivery.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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