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Tram Construction

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  1. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    @Stickman - I actually laughed out loud.

    Glad that's being done though - Probably 90% of the time I used that cycle lane, I had people walking up the cycle lane or walking out into it without looking. I remain zen in cases like that, since I can see how it's easy enough to do by accident, but I've seen at least one other cyclist being... less zen about it, as well as some pedestrians swearing at me for using my bell because they're walking in the bike lane.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. wingpig
    Member

    Constitution St works will temporarily block Links Lane for two weeks from Monday 9th March...

    IMG_20200304_185908890 by wingpig, on Flickr

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. CycleAlex
    Member

    Lindsay Road works start tomorrow - one way westbound with eastbound traffic going via Melrose drive: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/tramstonewhaven/downloads/file/223/newhaven-melrose-drive-traffic-management-plan

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. CycleAlex
    Member

    Noticed that the pavement on the south side of Lindsay Road has been made shared use with some hilariously large signs:

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. Tulyar
    Member

    Why wasn't the hatched area & parking bays used?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. neddie
    Member

    the pavement on the south side of Lindsay Road has been made shared use

    I suppose that's to connect the path network to Victoria Primary School?

    Still terrible though - having bikes run right past a load of blind gates to houses. Why can't they do things properly?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. davecykl
    Member

    I hope that's just a temporary "feature" for the duration of the tramway construction works, while the road is reduced to only one lane in total, and not something permanent, but it's certainly far from desirable from the perspective of people walking. At the very least it needs some sort of additional signs to encourage considerate and slow cycling, and to respect pedestrian priority. (It probably also doesn't bode well for the standard of what we'll get once the longer duration Leith Walk construction works are underway?)

    We probably need to keep a longer term watching eye here, as the road width here will be permanently narrowed as the tramway will take up around 1 lane (possibly slightly more) of the current width, and all the plans only seem to show vague "cycling arrangements to be finalised" sketchery, which very much suggests a high likelihood of bikes being squeezed out of the final roadspace layout here, Haymarket-stylee...

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. CycleAlex
    Member

    They’ve painted over the double reds on Leith Walk with double yellows which I thought was rather odd. Stricter rules surely more useful given the single lane from Saturday.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. CycleAlex
    Member

    Tram work suspended, Leith Walk won't shut northbound as planned this weekend. All other closures and traffic management will remain.

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/tramstonewhaven/news/article/46/trams-to-newhaven-construction-update---25-march-2020

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. toomanybikes
    Member

    Darn. Coming out of this with new infrastructure would have been cool. Ideal time to shut all the roads really

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. CycleAlex
    Member

    Site preparation getting back underway on Monday: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/tramstonewhaven/news/article/50/construction-site-preparation-works-to-trams-to-newhaven-project-to-start

    Leith Walk likely to close fairly soon after they're given approval to go to full construction which should in turn provide a segregated route down most of the Walk. Probably a bit rubbish, but better than the present.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. CycleAlex
    Member

  13. CycleAlex
    Member

    Main works restarting on Lindsay Road, Melrose Drive and Constitution Street from 15/06.

    Traffic management going in on Leith Walk from 19/06 with work starting 22/06.

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/tramstonewhaven/news/article/51/main-construction-on-trams-to-newhaven-project-to-re-start

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. CycleAlex
    Member

    In roughly 548 days there should be some new tram tracks and cycle lanes here!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. davecykl
    Member

    The tramline to Newhaven is now to be truncated even further east yet again (just west of Hawthornvale), now barely serving Newhaven or the supermarket.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TramstoNewhaven/status/1293899102799966209?p=p

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/tramstonewhaven/downloads/file/258/lindsay-road-july-2020-pdf

    If the stop gets moved any further east again, it’ll need to be renamed Leith Fort!

    The original location in the 2007 plans right next to the Sandpiper Rd junction was the most suitable, giving good access to the supermarket.

    Planning permission should never have been later granted for the flats hard up against the known tram route. The original stop site would not have been a problem otherwise.

    Also, building new landscaping works across the line of route at the end may also make future extension to Granton harder and so less likely?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. jonty
    Member

    https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s30795/Item%207.9%20-%20TtN%20Statutory%20Procedures%20for%20TRO.pdf

    Left turn off Leith Walk into London Road/right turn out of London Road onto Leith Walk will be banned (for motor traffic) to ensure a long full-width green phase for bikes and pedestrians, I suppose similar to Lothian Road.
    Good!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. neddie
    Member

    Traffic modelling has been undertaken...

    Yeah, stop traffic modelling. Just stop it already. You get what you design for.

    The left-turn ban is all about "flow". What a surprise!

    They still don't get it, do they?

    <sigh>

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. jonty
    Member

    My take is a bit more optimistic than that. They've had a clear choice between inconveniencing cyclists/pedestrians and inconveniencing motorists, and chosen the latter. That's positive.

    The conclusion from modelling is really just stating the obvious for me - paring down major junctions to just the movements that buses need simplifies things, makes it easier to maximise green time for bikes/pedestrians and prevents snarl-ups which can block trams/buses/crossings. It also makes walking/cycling the more intuitive and convenient choice.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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