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“Nearly EIGHT months of roadworks in Stockbridge set to get underway”

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  1. chdot
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  2. neddie
    Member

    Deanhaugh Street / Raeburn Place is massive rat-run that needs to be shut to through-traffic with a bus gate. Why not make it permanent after the works?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    “Why not make it permanent after the works?”

    Now there’s a question.

    One answer is “ThisIsEdinburgh”

    Another is (transport) business as usual.

    Like when they shut Princes Street, Tarvit Street etc etc - ‘can’t be done (permanently) the world would end’.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. jonty
    Member

    I agree that it ought to be shut but I'm not sure whether I'd count it as a 'rat run.' In my head that's a word reserved for residential streets people use to cut between main roads, not something which is currently numbered as the B900 and still a signed route to the Forth Road Bridge(!)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. PS
    Member

    It's perceived as the principal route from the New Town to the West/Forth Road Bridge, which will make closing it challenging.

    Not for residents of course, who would gain a pleasant high street (although I know a few Stockbridge residents who bristle at any hint of the Council reducing their "freedom" to drive wherever they see fit at whatever speed they see fit).

    It would be interesting to know how much of the traffic is just passing through and ruining in the local environment while they do. I suspect a diversion via Ferry Road or Queensferry Road is quicker for the vast majority of people who drive on Raeburn Place, but they see their current route as shorter and therefore faster.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. jonty
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    It is both an 'arterial' route out of the New Town as you say, and forms part of an imaginary ring road avoiding Queen Street. Hence main road feel.

    Would be great to start routinely closing it on Sundays for the market, or at least widening the pavements. Making it buses-only would be a shame as you'd lose the ability to use the road as an events space, but would certainly make things much friendlier and allow reallocation of some of the road space at least.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. unhurt
    Member

    @PS (in a vehicle more suited to off-roading with ten bales of hay and a labrador in the back)

    I, for one, am going to luxuriate in every hour of the road closure. But might not mention it to other folk in resident's association in case they burn me out.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. the canuck
    Member

    Greggs will feel the pain. My Anecdata suggests that upwards of 60% of their customers park illegally when shopping there. (I have partially forgiven them because they've brought back the Devon Donut.)

    They may need to open a pop-up on Queensferry Road.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. redmist
    Member

    Is this the same thing they're doing on Colinton Rd near Colinton village ? Those roadworks have been there for a really long time.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. chdot
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  11. chdot
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  12. crowriver
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    I do not recall such a stooshie being reported in the EEN when Abbeyhill residents had a year long gyratory system inflicted upon them in order to facilitate the golden turd. Possibly EEN cares little for the less well heeled inhabitants of Abbeyhill, but also the council astutely cordoned off nearby millionaire's row in anticipation of the ensuing TRAFFIC CHAOS AND MAYHEM, which potentially could have resulted in the rank and file hoi polloi ruining the Georgian elegance with their proletarian vehicles. Thereby staving off the prospect of Royal Terrace residents' outraged phone calls, missives and Brexitania Party councillors delugeing Her Majesty's finest.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. gembo
    Member

    Stockbridge deserted today 8am, sailed through. Took great route from Balgreen to Drummond though the setts were ultra greasy

    Could only have bettered the route if I came out the lane at Bellvue Kirk

    THough maybe could have avoided cobbles a bit more.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. Colonies_Chris
    Member

    Almost zero traffic on Raeburn Place and people are beginning to get the idea that they can walk on the road. Interesting that while businesses have expressed some concern over possible loss of trade, there's been none of the furious opposition there would be if it were something the council could be blamed for, like tram works or (god forbid) construction of a cycle lane.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. Stickman
    Member

    https://twitter.com/stockbridgefish/status/1219540473662115840?s=21

    “Due to the roadworks in stockbridge we are reaching out to our customers who are struggling to get into Raeburn Place,why not try our fantastic delivery service within a 5 mile radius of the shop all we ask is a minimum spend of five pounds,”

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    @crowriver, you're joking aren't you? It was all Jo Mowat moaned about for the best part of a year.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    Reminds me of when there were the resurfacing works on St John's Road. It was marvellous. My customers still cycled or parked up the hill and walked down. I tried to express to other traders how much nicer it was. They were convinced they were losing trade, which they probably were in the short term, but long term the benefits are immense and well-documented.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. Stickman
    Member

    @Harts: aye, she took the humph with me when I said I was fed up hearing about all the traffic on precious New Town residential streets but that there was no concern about people living on roads designated “arterial” like Leith Walk or London Road.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. crowriver
    Member

    "It was all Jo Mowat moaned about for the best part of a year."

    No. Cllr Mowat's concerns were about the New Town proper being desecrated by déclassé riff-raff rat running motorists decanted via the Albany Street diversion. I'm sure she was equally appalled at the noxious vehicle exhaust gases assaulting Abbeyhill residents' nostrils, lungs and eyes due to the year long gyratory. However she either kept her counsel due to Abbeyhill being outwith her ward, or because any concerns she may have had were purely Platonic.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. MediumDave
    Member

    I noted a sign (just the one) yesterday on Ardmillan Terrace. "Work starts here 27th Jan for eight weeks"

    Looking at the council's list, it's actually going to be shut for 10 weeks, along with various other road closures and lane restrictions. But, Gorgie, so no horrified articles in the Chipwrapper.

    Monday morning is going to be *hilarious* and I shall enjoy the quiet on Harrison Road, just like when it was shut before Christmas.

    Hurrah for SGN's modal filters!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. wingpig
    Member

    Forrest Road has a fascinatingly dense new set of spray-painted markings all over the doorway, implying potential imminent extensive work unless they were happy with the readings and measurements taken.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. AKen
    Member

    The markings seem to all over the Bristo Port area - and down into Middle Meadow Walk.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. the canuck
    Member

    "all we ask is a minimum spend of five pounds"

    i love that shop, but if I ever get out of there spending less than a fiver, I'll dance down the middle of the street.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. unhurt
    Member

    Indeed. Good fish isn't cheap!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. unhurt
    Member

    Sad that Stockbridge slowly reopening to through traffic. Raeburn Place has been a DELIGHT to pedestrian in.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. gembo
    Member

    You can buy a loaf for 12 pounds in Morningside. The Covenanter. Does not quite feed five thousand but it is a belter. The bakery - ANdante has a stall at Balerno Farmers Market. I was standing in front of it last Saturday in pre-contemplative mode. At the time I was being interrogated for 30 mins by pocket dynamo organiser of Fairtrade Balerno. Mostly this was about a rash promise I made to Bert last year when he was 92. I appear to have said we would give him a tee shirt if he came back this year. Anyway due to the length of this interrogation in front of the stall I was asked by the Andante person if I was a stall holder at the market. I said yes in a manner of speaking as I operate the Fairtrade Smoothie Bike. (Apparently council want us wearing blue gloves this year). THis may have given me a discount as the Half Covenanter came in at 5 pounds odds. About a minute later a big wind came along and they started closing the market early and giving away unsold bread and pastries.

    Finished the Half Covenanter yesterday - so five days.

    On other Covenanter matters - anyone up for cycle and then walk to The Covenanters Grave? Might need to wait now until things dry out. The route is best when earth frozen. Starts at the west Calder turn B7008 of thr A70.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. wingpig
    Member

    Looked like four-way signals at the landward side of the bridge yesterday, with a possible distant pedestrian phase taking so long to appear that I didn't wait to find out.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. the canuck
    Member

    i've really enjoyed traffic-lite raeburn place, and in a mad mand world, would like to see it made one-way only--would then be rat-runnish only early mornings, if it were city-direction.

    but it will be good to have the bus back. that's been noticeable. Didn't help that Lothian didn't bother to update the schedules on their app.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. unhurt
    Member

    Yes, the buses have been an Issue!

    @gembo I know that dynamo well as she is the mother of my best and oldest friend.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    @unhurt, yes I know. Your friends dad Asked me a question - Do you think Balerno is well served by buses? I said yes but this was the wrong answer. We then had a long discussion at which point on the paper of the survey it looked as if I had changed my mind. THe local councillor was querying your friend’s dad’s survey technique.

    I had been directed by the other Village Trust people to discuss the transport consultation with your friend’s dad. Your friend might not appreciate this but he seems quite like his dad?

    Posted 4 years ago #

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