The Council's Local Transport Strategy (adopted in 2014) says their Modal split target for car journeys was 31% by 2020.
It's now 2020 - does anyone know what the actual number is?
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Car use in Edinburgh
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Posted 5 years ago #
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Page 30 here might be useful:
https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/25200/edinburgh-by-numbers-2019
During 2018, 41.0% of people in Edinburgh reported that their main mode of travel was car or taxi, a decrease of more than 2% from 43.3% in 2017. The national average increased from 64.6% to 65.7% in the same period.
Edinburgh reported the lowest percentage of journeys undertaken by car or taxi when compared to other Scottish cities at 39.0%.
from: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/13828/edinburgh-by-numbers
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Perfect, thanks!
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The best available figures are from the Scottish Household Survey (reported in Transport and Travel in Scotland) for 2018. Main mode of travel in Edinburgh was 30% for driver of a car/van and 9% as a passenger.
Pretty good I would argue. No other local authority gets close to figures this low for car travel.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Does sound good but the cars are very long and wide and by using a very dirty calculation 70% of them are single occupancy vehicles
Last night a big 4x4 was parked in Juni Green causing hold ups all along Lanark Road due to its wide chassis
We should get James Caan and Alan Arkin from Rollerball to skate round smashing in the sides of these cars that are blocking the thoroughfare
p.s. I am not anti-car I like a wee mini and a cinquecento - these and smart cars make sense as catrs to drive into Edinburgh. But they seem less numerous than enormous black 4x4. How can we alter the mindset of someone wanting to buy such cars for their commutes?
Posted 5 years ago # -
I'll wager that many of the single occupant selfish vehicles on Edinburgh roads are not driven by Edinburgh residents, but have instead arrived here from Lothians East, West and Mid, and also Fife.
Indeed I seem to recall stats backing that up (see threads passim).
Posted 5 years ago # -
Less cars overall = better, but I definitely feel differently about a wee city runabout than I do about a vast off-road-capable almost-a-tank occupying public space both in motion & at rest...
Posted 5 years ago # -
Check here for clickable data mapping on transport modes for commutes into and out of various districts of fair Edina:
https://scotlandcommute.datashine.org.uk/
For fun, click on South Gyle and see the relatively large numbers driving in from as far as Perth, Stirling, Borders, etc.
Posted 5 years ago # -
@crowriver Yes, those folks gonna have to stump up for Congestion Charge or park and ride
That Gyle chart is a Blues Explosion
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@crowriver- hadn't looked at this for a while. Fair poit about all the outside visits, but still top of the list 458 journeys going South Gyle to South Gyle. What do we reckon is the longest walking time from one edge to the other?
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@paddyirish - that 458 is for all modes of transport. "Only" 162 of them are driving (plus 16 passengers), compared to 238 pedestrians and a whopping 8 cyclists. Which is still, of course, a ridiculously, absurdly, atrociously high level of car use.
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@paddyirish, I used to walk from far west of South Gyle to Corstorphine in my lunchbreak, this was before the shopping centre was built. 25 mins
Was also 10 mins walk from South Gyle Station to the office.
Apparently the car park is getting a Cinema at the shopping centre?
Quite a bit of Edinburgh traffic going over the bridge to InverKeithing but small potatoes in the scheme of things
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Fair point @Frenchy - no cyclists leaving or coming to Dalgety Bay according to this. I could name ~30 cycle commuters out of the Bay and there will be others I can't name.
@gembo- I'd bet on not much less than 25 mins driving time if you consider finding somewhere to park at both ends.
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Yeah, annoyingly "Only flows with 6+ people included".
So 5 people could be cycling from Dalgety Bay East to South Gyle, and another 5 from Dalgety Bay Central to Corstorphine, and another 5 from Dalgety Bay West to South Gyle etc., and none of that's shown. Also makes it impossible to know the total number of commuters to/from anywhere.
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Yes the car will not decrease the journey time given several cul de sacs and massive queues. My route was direct and skirted a park on a desire line.
Corstorphine as you know has a stone ceilinged church with quite a hair raising tale of romance and revenge. Also several hostelries.
Posted 5 years ago # -
"How many cars in Edinburgh?" Is a very good question. We can't produce - and crucially monitor - a new transport strategy unless we know the answer to this, and I don't think we do.
The Scottish Household Survey as noted above, seems to be the best available regular data. But this records travel by *Edinburgh residents*. We know that lots of traffic is people driving into Edinburgh from Fife, W Lothian, wherever, so this doesn't show up. And anecdotally' I would say about half the city centre traffic at any one time is a van or private hire car, again probably invisible in SHS stats.
Notwithstanding, the SHS seems to show basically the same % of car use as when the last Transport Strategy was produced in 2014. See here for details https://twitter.com/dvrh9/status/1217375330710761473?s=20 However, these are % figures, and we really need actual numbers (volumes).
Lots to be done if the new Transport Strategy/Mobility Plan is to be credible and useful; we need numbers, not just good intentions....
Posted 5 years ago # -
“we need numbers, not just good intentions”
We need the good intentions (as expressed by politicians) to be converted into ACTION.
Politicians speak and expect officials to act.
Doesn’t often work like that...,
Posted 5 years ago # -
@chdot politicians say dual a9, put flyover over sherriffhall
Same politicians bang on about targets on Environment but they are vague aims rather than Lets stop dialling a8 now to reach targets. Lets scrap flyover to reach targets
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