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Todays (almost) amazing pedestrian crossing news

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  • Started 2 years ago by dessert rat
  • Latest reply from Stickman

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  1. dessert rat
    Member

    last year got tired / annoyed with how long it took to be able to cross the road (St Colme St / Ainslie Place), due to all the rat-running traffic between Queensferry Rd and Queen St (seems mental that volume is allowed, even HGVs).

    Even with a small kid in tow, can easily stand 3 or 4 mins in the rain until someone decides to let you cross. There’s quite a few nurseries close by, so often see lots of prams/buggies waiting on both sides.

    So I googled how to have a junction assessed for a ped crossing of some sort. Seems you just ask and they will eventually get round to assessing it. The criteria they use is "a nationally recognised value that indicates the number of passing vehicles and crossing pedestrians. Pedestrian and vehicle counts are taken over the peak hours of a week day, from 7am to 10am and 3pm to 6pm, and avoiding school holidays or any other factors which might cause an abnormal result.

    This base PV2 value is then adjusted to take account of local factors such as the age of those crossing, the composition and speed of passing traffic, the road width, the number of pedestrian accidents and the presence of nearby trip attractors such as schools, doctors’ surgeries, shops etc.

    A location with an adjusted PV2 value of 1 or higher (2 or higher on a dual carriageway) would be considered for a puffin crossing, locations with a value of 0.3 or higher would be considered for a suite of measures that includes a zebra crossing, refuge island or pavement build-outs.".

    Turns out that the result of the crossing assessment on St Colme St / Ainslie Place resulted in an adjusted PV2 value of 6.188 – yay ! “It is therefore proposed to provide a signalised pedestrian crossing facility at this location”. I was looking out for the assessment, as I had MiniMcR’s nursery lined up to take multiple trips over that crossing – seems they weren’t needed.

    Of course this is CEC and pedestrians, so naturally there is some sobering bad news which will bring reality back into sharp focus. There are 35 locations in the queue ahead and they have a budget to be able to build 10 – 12 / year, so have a full workload until end of 23/24 financial year.

    So looking forward to being able to cross safely sometime in 2025.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. unhurt
    Member

    Hurra--

    oh.

    There are 35 locations in the queue ahead and they have a budget to be able to build 10 – 12 / year, so have a full workload until end of 23/24 financial year.

    That is wild. Definitely one I will support the all-powerful pedestrian lobby on protesting.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. Stickman
    Member

    Don’t get your hopes up.

    Corstorphine Road at Kaimes Road had one of the highest PV scores* when it was first assessed in 2009. A final, final, honestly this time it’s final, consultation on the final, final, definitely final design of the crossing is “imminent”.

    *just checked, it was the highest PV on the list of future crossings at 2.81 but your location smashes that

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. David Hunter
    Member

    A report on pedestrian crossing priorities (the first for two years) is due at T&E for the 14 May meeting. So well worth lobbying local councillors in the next couple of months...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. acsimpson
    Member

    Is that the priority of installation or the apparent lack of priority for pedestrians on ones which are already installed?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. Stickman
    Member

    Construction of the Kaimes Road pedestrian crossing starts on Monday, a mere thirteen years after it was first assessed.

    https://twitter.com/edintravel/status/1489600384746283022?s=21

    Posted 6 months ago #
  7. fimm
    Member

    Mr Fimm reports that construction of the Kaimes Road crossing is happening but the lights are not turned on yet.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  8. SRD
    Moderator

    yes! saw it yesterday (as I waited for endless streams of traffic to clear so I could cross the the road).

    will there be a grand opening?! I'd contribute a glass of co-op's finest fair trade speaking to that!

    Posted 2 months ago #
  9. Stickman
    Member

    Construction has been stalled for the last month or so: problems in sourcing the signalling equipment apparently.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  10. SRD
    Moderator

    There were people there working on it yesterday.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  11. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    New crossing going in on Fountainbridge at the end of Grove St also

    Posted 2 months ago #
  12. Stickman
    Member

    @SRD: excellent!

    Posted 2 months ago #
  13. Stickman
    Member

    The lights at Kaimes Road are being installed today.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  14. Stickman
    Member

    Now working!

    Posted 1 month ago #

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