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Fantasy Post-CV Society thread
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Time for some optimism!
Except...
https://www.nme.com/news/music/denmark-have-started-holding-drive-in-gigs-2657878- Denmark trialled a potential solution to the coronavirus pandemic’s effects on live performances this week, with musician Mads Langer performing a sold-out ‘drive-in’ gig.
Announced with six days’ notice, the gig sold out almost instantly. 500 tickets were sold for the show, which took place on the outskirts of Aarhus. The following day, the stage became a drive-in cinema.
So - your car is:
- a means to get to CV-19 test centres
- your own personal shield (as usual)
- base for picnics and eating out
- entertainment platformThe monetising of CV-19 aka 'drive your way to the new normal'.
<<< angry emoji >>>Will now find some good news about how cities have never been cleaner and councils are opening streets for people to enjoy.
Here's Hackney in London.
https://www.livingstreets.org.uk/get-involved/local-groups/hackneyPosted 3 years ago # -
Closer to home:
Presumably public toileting of some kind has to be provided? I thought that was a huge risk/problem?
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She-wee and coke bottle?
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The five points he outlined were:
To capture the imagination and will of humanity – change will only happen if people really want it.
The economic recovery must put the world on the path to sustainable employment, livelihoods and growth. Longstanding incentive structures that have had perverse effects on our planetary environment and nature herself must be reinvented
Systems and pathways must be redesigned to advance net zero transitions globally. Carbon pricing can provide a critical pathway to a sustainable market.
Science, technology and innovation need re-invigorating. Humanity is on the verge of catalytic breakthroughs that will alter our view of what it possible and profitable in the framework of a sustainable future.
Investment must be rebalanced. Accelerating green investments can offer job opportunities in green energy, the circular and bio-economy, eco-tourism and green public infrastructure.
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I wonder what longstanding incentive structures His Royal Highness Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales, KG, KT, GCB, OM, AK, QSO, PC, ADC, Earl of Chester, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles and Prince and Great Steward of Scotland has in mind?
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“The language of economics is failing us [and] the result is that we miss the message,” said Prof Sir Partha Dasgupta and the UN’s Inger Andersen in an article published on Friday. “Our economies, livelihoods and wellbeing all rely on nature, from the food we eat, to controlling our climate, regulating disease and providing spiritual fulfilment. Without nature, there would be no life.”
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They said ‘natural capital’ – the planet’s stock of natural resources, like plants, soils and minerals – should be valued alongside the values of produced capital, such as roads, and human capital, such as skills. Together, these form a measure of a country’s true wealth, they said.
Data from the UN Environment Programme shows that the global stock of natural capital per capita has declined nearly 40% since the early 1990s, while produced capital has doubled and human capital has increased by 13%. “Unlike standard models of economic growth and development, placing ourselves and our economies within nature helps us to accept that our prosperity is ultimately bounded by that of our planet,”
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/coronavirus-is-an-sos-signal-for-the-human-enterprise
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It was always likely that the months of lockdown would demand some kind of emotional catharsis. You imagined it would involve the usual British excesses of lager and sunshine. In fact, in the past week its primary expression has been a coming together of mostly young people in our cities under the banner of Black Lives Matter.
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The UK is falling behind on its target to cut greenhouse gas emissions and risks a surge in carbon emissions as lockdown eases, the government’s climate advisers warn.Ministers must act fast if the UK is to avoid a massive rebound in carbon emissions after the coronavirus crisis eases, Lord Deben, chair of the committee on climate change (CCC), which published its progress report to parliament on Thursday, said. By setting up new schemes to insulate homes, raise carbon taxes, switch to electric vehicles and improve broadband, the government could spur a green recovery to create jobs and cut emissions permanently.
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Scottish Power boss was on radio saying 'we need to electrify the hell out of everything'.
Meanwhile I see a lot of people out on non e-bikes which just shows you that your own energy is still worth using!
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"25% of Edinburgh jobs at risk" (from http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20098&page=102)
Add to that the many companies that now realise they won't need sprawling office complexes going forward with 1/3 of the remaining workforce WAH at any point in time, and Edinburgh could easily become a ghost town, along with the longer term impact on commercial and residential property prices as a result of that.
(probably doesn't seem fantasy now?)
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“remaining workforce WAH at any point in time, and Edinburgh could easily become a ghost town”
You (and many others) might think that -
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Daniel McHugh, managing director of real estate for Aviva Investors said: “This is a key strategic development opportunity for the City of Edinburgh and one that will provide much-needed new Grade A office space in one of the most sustainable locations in the Capital.
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Aren't 1/3 of the office based employees going to have to work from home because the sprawling office complexes aren't sprawling enough? If there was more space in them everyone could WFO without coming into contact with their colleagues.
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@acsimpson - my own work is going to have everyone who can WFH for the foreseeable future. Only a skeleton staff will be in our 300 strong, city centre office. That will be a one way system which means a huge trek to get to the toilets and one person per pod - i.e. no longer chit-chat with your immediate neighbours - and staggered visits to the kitchen. The nicer bits of office working, the sociable bit, will have gone and it will be a miserable, lonely place. I'm hoping to avoid it if I can. The "village" aspect of office life, where people met and became colleagues, friends and often enough, partners/spouses, will have gone.
The kind of commuting office life is of course a relatively new development from about the late 19th century with the development of railways/bicycles and later (grrrr) cars. So our great technological change, the digital one, may usher in a new age of working and the pandemic may accelerate it.
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Maybe a lot of this office space will go residential with people working from home but meeting in local spaces like cafes and gyms and sports clubs.
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@Rosie
There was a time when the working class intelligentsia of Scotland were the weavers. Skilled pieceworkers with home workshops and the time and money to read books in the evening.
So shall it be again.
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Office space turned into schools?
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New analysis of early June mobile phone data by the Centre for Cities thinktank shows footfall in London, Liverpool and Manchester was just one fifth of what it was before the country went into lockdown in March. Cities in Scotland and Wales, where tougher restrictions are in place, have been the hardest hit: Cardiff has experienced only 12% of its usual footfall and Edinburgh only 14%.
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@IWRATS - I imagine that the Kirk and the pub played the part of a meeting place for socialising/meeting partners as well as the intellectual clubs that skilled workers set up.
I enjoy the buzz of Edinburgh at lunch time when the workers emerge for lunch and shopping. However I hope that another buzz will replace it, and it will be less concentrated at commuting times/lunch i.e. a different kind of rhythm.
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The Gothenburgs were pubs and linked to places of learning such as libraries. Dominos banned
Just pubs now Though the one in The Pans Is cited in wiki as still being run under the Gothenburg system
Rebus first bought a round in the one in Cardenden. Fife had 20 (all from wiki)
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Crises and tragedies have this strange effect of revealing our real priorities, even to ourselves. They also give us clarity in another way: by stripping off the wallpaper of society and revealing the hidden structures underneath.
In the case of the UK and US, COVID-19 has exposed some deep underlying health conditions.
It exposed a government machine that has been so weakened by decades of outsourcing and intellectual capture that it literally no longer has the capacity to act effectively to meet strategic social aims, even when it needs to.
It exposed the fragility of our social infrastructure – again, from decades of being mined away. An overstretched NHS. Millions of people living in dark, tiny, cramped, depressing homes and neighbourhoods that are simply not fit for living in for any extended period of time: many with little or no outdoor space or access to green space.
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https://medium.com/@AlastairParvin/a-new-land-contract-684c3ba1f1b3
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I'm glad they stipulated 'peacetime' because the usual way of keeping the young gainfully employed after such massive financial events is to have a war...
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Britain is crying out for a better normal. Communities across the country are emerging from lockdown with a new sense of what is possible and what is necessary – and the answers to both go a lot further than Westminster’s efforts to drive the country back to business as usual.“
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Travelling by campervan......I visited Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Hartlepool, Aberdeen, Machynlleth, Fishguard and Bristol.
Aberdeen? On or before the 25th of June....
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Strange route, sort of across the middle of England and into Wales but Also Aberdeen? I suppose I bettter read the article
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Apart from conducting one interview in a graveyard there is no further mention of Aberdeeen
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