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  1. gembo
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    THis is a bbc Scotland news website item 3 are Edinburgh families. 2 of which appear to have nice big houses and gardens with fire pits (bought for the lockdown). One of them has taken up cycling 100s of miles.

    Only the Glasgow couple seemed real to me. The wife had two jobs before lockdown and they only saw each other from9.30pm to 11.30pm each day.

    THe item , if I can find it had no editorial along the lines of Poverty kills you more during Covid 19 or Lockdown violations correlated with poverty. But here are some nice Edinburgh families with nice big houses and gardens who are enjoying life together like a nice big long holiday.

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  2. Morningsider
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    Yeah - what's not to love about home schooling two kids who haven't seen any of their mates for two months, while also trying to work? Did I mention the nagging worry about older relatives or concerns for friends who may soon be out of work
    - all of whom I would love to see? And I am one of the lucky ones! I have a garden, easy access to green space and a secure job.

    Also - I'm intrigued how you buy a pit. Isn't it just a hole in the ground?

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  3. I were right about that saddle
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    The BBC has a charter duty to help contribute to the social
    cohesion and wellbeing of the United Kingdom
    .

    Maybe if they reported that this is really horrible and people are going quietly mad (I suspect that's the truth for quite a few people) then they wouldn't be fulfilling that obligation?

    Also, how are these things filmed? I was watching Grayson Perry's art thing and his studio seemed to have been rigged with Big Brother style cameras.

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  4. wingpig
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    One of the things missing from the early Italian heartwarming lockdown videos of people playing accordions at each other from their balconies was the people trying to block out the sound and WFH whilet homeschooling kids and keeping everyone fed, healthy and sane.

    Jack Monroe's first (WFH) week on the BBC's Daily Kitchen thing was filmed from a selection of tablets, phones and a DSLR sitting on a wee table in her kitchen. I assume telly people are being given a bunch of GoPros and suchlike to fasten around their homes if filming themselves, unless they're important enough to have actual film crews break lockdown and set stuff up for them.

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  5. jdanielp
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    Presumably various shift keyworkers are rudely awoken from their much-needed slumber at 8 pm every Thursday night...

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. ejstubbs
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    @gembo: One of them has taken up cycling 100s of miles.

    Is that the family where the father said: "We have also cycled 100 miles as a family over the last six weeks". So a total of 100 miles in six weeks, not 100s of miles.

    I'd be surprised if a fair few folks didn't walk more than 2½ miles a day during normal times. I know I did.

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  7. gembo
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    I have a “fire pit” basicallly a large wok on a little stand. Can be jolly if like me you like FIRE. FIRE, I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE AND I’M READY TO BURN. Actually I use only dry wood and fire lighters to avoid smoke for the people with respiratory issues and indeed conscious prevailing wind takes it right to me neighbours. Easterlies been OK. But still not been using it much. I do have a n oak barrel that @unhurt broke so I do want to burn it but can wait.

    My neighbour’s neighbours heading west who are real characters are currently burning big style down the garden but they care not. Indeed had a quite loud party during the first weeks of lockdown.

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  8. crowriver
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    Never mind fire pits, I note two mentions of baking in the article - now we know why there's no flour in the shops! Stop buying all the damn flour and then posting photos of your baking on the internet!

    In common with others in this thread, I too am sceptical of the positive vibes on display here. I suppose everyone has to say how much they're enjoying each other's company: it is the BBC and granny or Aunt Flo may be reading, not to mention The Boss.

    Speaking of which, one undercurrent I found telling and rather sad is that clearly in normal times these people never spend any time with each other, much less their children. They're all too busy working it seems. Why? I suppose nice houses in Edinburgh with gardens don't come cheap but still don't understand the obsession with everyone working all the time.

    Also note that two people in the interview, both women, have been furloughed. Obviously I hope they have a job to go back to when their furlough tails off, but there's a hint there in an otherwise über-chirpy article that the future may not look so rosy for some...

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  9. Morningsider
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    @crowriver - surely you aren't implying that the country can do with fewer content marketing managers!

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  10. crowriver
    Member

    @Morningsider, furlough not mentioned in that instance, WFH I think. However it is possible there may be less content requiring marketing in the coming Great Depression. Whether managers or lowly marketing serfs get the chop remains to be seen.

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  11. Greenroofer
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    Everyone is suffering with the same anxieties that Morningsider mentions, but some are also suffering with extra challenges palpably absent in that article.

    This lockdown will further entrench privilege and advantage. Those who have a large(ish) comfortable house, an outside space, the intellectual resources to help their children learn and the financial resources to be comfortable, will see their families pull (further) ahead of those who don't have those advantages.

    The author of that article has produced a few similarly cheery pieces about Edinburgh for the BBC recently. I preferred the one about people dressing up to go shopping.

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  12. crowriver
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    Amazing what you discover when you follow a grasshopper.
    Lockdown zen vibes from Bod (1975).

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  13. stiltskin
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    Ok I’ll be controversial. I don’t see what the problem with the article is. There has been lots of coverage of how people are suffering under lockdown and highlighting that it disproportionately affects the poor. This isn’t saying that everyone is having a good time, just that some people are doing ok. So it is what it is. Are you suggesting they should ignore what is actually happening? I seem to recall a headline saying something like ‘40% of people are struggling to cope with lockdown’ (in the small print 48% weren’t). If you only highlight the bad aspects of the news you are guilty of distortion IMHO.

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  14. gembo
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    Bod he was The Man circa 1973

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  15. Baldcyclist
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    My childhood nickname was Bod, it's sometimes funny when I go back to suasage roll city (Livi), and hear someone shouting it at me. Sometimes the tone still invokes that instinctial flight mode, before I realise I don't have to now.

    Lockdown has been mostly good, I have a 5 year old so I haven't been out the house after 7:30pm pretty much since he was born anyway. So the only difference is I save 2 hours in commuting each day, which 1 goes to excersise, and 1 to family. I really like being able to nip down stairs for a coffee break, or lunch sitting outside with family in the garden (no firepit, makes the washing stink). I've ironically spent more time outside during lockdown than before.

    I spend some time at work most weeks chatting to folks making sure they are coping, and almost everyone, including me don't want to go back to the pre-lockdown 'normal', instead prefering the work life balance WAH provides. My only measure is, 'is the work getting done', so folks are pretty free to work whatever hours they can manage through the day. I haven't noticed any drop in productivity from anyone, in fact each and every one of them is awsome.

    If as a society we try to go back to the pre lockdown trudge to the office for 8 hours every day we are mad. Life can be much more fulfilling, just as productive, and we can reduce cost of running offices and estates, and reduce the transport emmssions we produce.

    I suspect many of those in senior positions want us all back at the grind in the office as sson as possible, and this great experiment in home working will all have been a waste of time...

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  16. crowriver
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    Not so much sausage roll city as sausage(s) dog:

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  17. MediumDave
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    @baldcyclist, I'm all for flexibility but nobody should be forced to work from home just as they shouldn't be forced to come into the office. Personally I found out something about myself from this lockdown: I should never take a job that requires me to work from home! My productivity is considerably less than normal, and there's no external reason, like kids or a job that's difficult to do from home that explains this[1].

    For various reasons I needed to go into the office this afternoon and got more done in a three hours there than I did all day yesterday.

    A possible reason: I took a decision in my mid 20s not to work from home if I could possibly avoid it (to preserve that work-life balance which was getting crushed out by work creeping into evenings and weekends). This was the right decision for me right up until 23rd March this year. Perhaps I was too successful in compartmentalising my life.

    ObCycling: due to the swimming pool being shut my weekly mileage has shot up enormously. Considering n+1...

    [1] Also I have recently been doing some deeply tedious non-work related admin (which @Greenroofer will know all about from Bygone Days). No problems doing that. My actual job though...deary me.

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  18. Baldcyclist
    Member

    "nobody should be forced to work from home"

    I agree - except for in the current circumstances.

    In other teams there are people that hate WAH, some don't have private space to work, and are working at the diningroom or kitchen table to then be back at the table when they finish work, and find it difficult to seperate the two.

    One person in my team misses the office really badly, as he doesn;t get to go for coffee with his friends.

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  19. Greenroofer
    Member

    @MediumDave - I actually used to quite enjoy that 'tedious non-work related admin' :-)

    I'm in a similar fortunate position to @Baldcyclist. I can't imagine that we'll ever go back to 'the way things were' for those with office-based jobs. Why would employers pay for all that expensive real estate, if instead they can get people to stay at home. Not to say that those who want to come to the office won't be able to, but I think the presumption will swing strongly the other way.

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  20. chdot
    Admin

    @ MD

    Now that there is no normal and the new normal is unknown, perhaps time to permutate all the options for a re-compartmentalised (or even re-merged) future??

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. gembo
    Member

    Issue is that lot of spare office space now available that no one wants. Apparently even our office mice are shielding

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  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Maybe we'll see a new building code so that dwellings built henceforth will have not just living areas but offices and workshops with separate utilities so that employers can cough up for the heat and power?

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  23. Baldcyclist
    Member

    "employers can cough up for the heat and power?

    I don't know, at the moment for me it seems like quite a beneficial arrangement. I pay ~£5 a month extra in leccie, but don't pay £204 a month on my train ticket.

    Though some at work have been asking about compensation for extra costs.

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  24. wingpig
    Member

    With both of us WFH full time there's no choice about when the children's need intrude upon those of our offices, except if either of us has a phone call we sometimes get to go in a room and shut the door. Some office/management communications/attitudes seem to come dangerously close to implicitly presuming that they're addressing the primary earner and non-primary caregiver.

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  25. Morningsider
    Member

    I know there are people having a good time in lockdown, such as my single mate on furlough, who owns his flat outright and is variously watching box sets, sunbathing in his back green and tramping the Pentlands. Good for him (really, top bloke - known him since primary school).

    I suppose what annoys me about this article is the fact that people have chosen, in the full knowledge that people are literally dying, to broadcast to the nation what larks they are having. Just strikes the wrong tone for me.

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  26. chdot
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    “broadcast to the nation what larks they are having“

    Because of present circumstances, people doing so as ‘influencers’ or ‘celebrities’ seem to be less appreciated than they once were.

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  27. Baldcyclist
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    You could make the same argument all of the time. There are always hundreds of millions of people all around the world suffering and dying at any point in time, but we all largely carry on as though nothing is happening.

    When things are closer to home, the suffering is brought into focus, but there is always suffering everywhere.

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  28. gembo
    Member

    @baldycyclist You are quoting Lime Tree Arbour by the blessed Nick Cave. Ta as now listening to said track from THe Boatman’s Call hisa 16 track masterpiece, if only he had left it at 12 tracks. As that is enough songs about sp[litting up with PJ Harvey

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  29. Morningsider
    Member

    @Baldcyclist - true, we all have to filter out the suffering of others (both near and far) simply to function. However, we are all in the middle of a unique situation. The UK and Scottish Governments hold daily press conferences listing the hundreds of deaths from Covid-19 that day. Care home residents, our own parents/grandparents, are being cut down in swathes. NHS and care staff die from lack of protective equipment, yet their colleagues still go in to work the next day. To somehow think (as the people in this article do) - "how can I make this about me and the amazing time I'm having" is something else.

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  30. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Perhaps another advantage of having a 5 year old. In order to stop the boy having nightmares we've stopped watching the briefings and 6pm news 4 weeks ago.

    I don't think any, or certainly many are revelling in the current situation, however everyone has to deal with it in the best way they can. Those who live with families, and have gardens, and ability to have some level of normality I guess will be coping with the situation better.

    I often wonder how I would have felt if this had happened 15 years ago when I lived in a flat alone. That would have been hard.

    Having empathy with others, and making the best of a bad situation are compatible with each other.

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