He's made his decision and not going to be shifted by any silly little facts. [especially not with a General Election looming]
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Posted 8 months ago #
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terrible article written about 'the braid state' (sic)
love the councillor who wants it to 'go back to the way it was before Covid' but accepts that residents choice is for segregated cycle lanes "But she said the cycle lane should be indicated by painted markings on the road rather than with a kerb."
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As a strong advocate of segregated cycle lanes, I personally think that the Tory councillor calling for a full reinstatement of the original road layout is closer to the right answer than option 3. Either way you will have full traffic volumes criss-crossing cyclists at the junctions, but one way costs millions while the other preserves money for Transport Scotland to deal out to Glasgow et al
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No one has even mentioned junctions. it's like they don't exist.
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It feels like I'm standing in the overflow at Seafield!
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Cllr Arthur talking about the Scottish Government setting good targets but failing to deliver on them in regards to reduction in traffic. At least irony isn’t dead.
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So what's happened? Any good commentary?
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Spokes on Twitter
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Previously
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Survey participants were asked to rank the following four options for Braid Road in order of preference:
Option 1: Braid Road fully open in both directions;
Option 2: Braid Road open in both directions with a Modal Filter located north of Braidburn Terrace;
Option 3: Braid Road fully open northbound, southbound restriction at Hermitage Drive; and
Option 4: Braid Road open southbound only with the road closed to motor vehicles at Hermitage Drive.
Option 1 was the most popular first preference, Option 2 was the most popular second preference, Option 3 was the most popular third preference, and Option 4 was the most popular fourth preference.
However, it is notable that many respondents – especially within the local area – chose Option 4 as their first preference. Meanwhile, many respondents – especially within the local area – chose Option 1 as their fourth preference.
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https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/braid-comiston-engage/
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Safe route, less conflict, reduced traffic with no displacement or congestion elsewhere. Can’t understand why the scheme is being removed.
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Ben Parker’s speech yesterday
iPhone AI version, may contain errors and not enough punctuation
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I’m quite sad about the decision that I think is gonna be made today. I’m very disappointed I think this is gonna be the worst decision of this Council term. I’m actually quite angry but I think the decision that we’re gonna make today which I think will jeopardise the safety of children and young people in my ward will be made on the same day that we’ve had a very powerful emergency motion about the death of a child cyclist come forward and be agreed so please Committee don’t let the sympathies you expressed earlier, turn out to be hollow promises when fact that there are significant number of responses to the consultation which favour options to remove filters 48% in favour of option three will doubted the figure which is banded around. We have to interrogate the concerns which people have raised this part of the consultation which has led to them supporting this option. Our job as Councillors is to listen and respond to consultations not to blindly enact the results in inverted commas of them. So what did people actually tell us they told us that they don’t like the aesthetics of the filters, and that wayfinding sign is poor, that’s addressed by all of the options on the table That they’re worried about displacement of traffic to Morningside Road, but the report is clear that there is no evidence for that they told us that they worry about traffic and other parts of the Braid estate. The traffic count evidence has shown that there is been a 40% reduction of traffic through the estate so filters are doing their job. It is true that there has been a there is much more that needs to be said about the cost of installing segregated lanes in this residential area and the impact this will have on investment on active travel schemes in other less wealthy parts of the city. There’s more that needs to be said about the poverty, equality and climate impacts of this decision today as referenced in the report, but in closing I want you to know this When you look beyond that 48% figure which will be used to justify the harm that many of you seem to do today you will see that this route is popular. This route is important and this route is successful.
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Danny Aston’s speech yesterday
iPhone AI version, may contain errors and not enough punctuation
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we are not opposing investment in high-quality segregated cycling infrastructure here so the new lanes Hollyrood Road are good and positive model to emulate I know there were some concerns expressed about materials used in the construction of those and future maintenance requirements are around that but it seems like they provide a lower cost option which make a real difference to safety, and of course which can be rolled out because they’re a bit cheaper as well. What we can’t do is support the removal of the modal filters and other measures from the Braid Estate which made it safer for pedestrians, and I think we need to we need to be very clear about that you know pedestrians are at the top of the Transport hierarchy. The questions been asked by other people already today, but you know what happened to consultations not being referendum. What’s the point in having overarching targets and strategies which we hope will achieve them if we just end up, abandoning them for political expediency, so I don’t know I’m not hopeful we’re gonna prevail today but I move our addendum nonetheless
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Good article from the EEN, with quotes from Blackford Safe Routes
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#TrafficFilters
Interestingly, the Transport Committee and Convener who voted to remove the #BraidEstate filters at the 7.3.24 meeting
also voted, at their 1.2.24 meeting, to retain 29 existing filters and install 32 more!
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Labour's @CllrScottArthur knew that he was doing the wrong thing - one councillor commented that he'd never seen Scott take so long to sum up a motion
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https://twitter.com/blackfordsafer1/status/1766072152539717762
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This may or may not be relevant here…
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As that mighty writer Toni Morrison once argued, though, in such times there is “no time for despair, no place for self-pity, no room for fear". The more we identify and name these threats to democracy, and to any kind of sustainable future, the more we can begin to shift public debate back into a place where we are never again confronted with such a pathetic tribute to short-termism and low-level political expediency as Jeremy Hunt served up this week. Anyone with a sense of history knows that humankind can do, and has done, much better than this; and this is a time, if ever there was one, to turn away from the purveyors of junk politics who increasingly pervade our culture, and to start aiming higher, and demanding more.
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Rishi Sunak’s report finds low-traffic neighbourhoods work and are popular
Exclusive: Downing Street hoped study would strengthen arguments against LTNs and report was buried at first
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"In Edinburgh on Thursday they had the transport committee, where they spoke about Thomas Wong, the child who was killed in Edinburgh.
"And then a couple of hours later, they spoke about removing traffic filters in a part of the city that was creating protection for not just for cyclists, but for pedestrians.
"At a national level, we had the budget this week where fuel duty was frozen again but no additional funding for public transport."
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24172960.shawlands-bike-bus-rides-thomas-wong-elizabeth-bell/
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Don’t know if this decision can be ‘referred to Full Council’ - it may be that Cllrs have to say something at meetings where decisions were made.
City of Edinburgh Council - Thursday, 21st March, 2024 10.00 am
https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=150&MId=6938
Presume there will be a deputation or two on the whole business of Active Travel and Road Safety and how committees seem to be ignoring POLICIES.
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A good article summarising Thursday's transport committee. Complete with misleading statements from Labour and Lib Dem councillors
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https://x.com/blackfordsafer1/status/1766447383120888009
+ thread
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Unrolled thread of above:
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Basically the problems go back to this -
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Susan Aitken, the Glasgow city council's SNP leader, had the day before told The Herald she thought Labour were being "very foolish" by ruling out alliances with the SNP.
While the SNP chief in Scotland's largest city did not elaborate why she thought that was the case, a look at the make-up of Scotland's local authorities may help to explain why.
Currently, the SNP and Labour are coalition partners in six of Scotland's 32 local authorities - Edinburgh, East Renfrewshire, Stirling, Dumfries and Galloway, South Ayrshire and Fife, while Labour and the Tories also jointly run the administration in Aberdeen.
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OK, I’ve obviously not been paying attention.
I thought all SA’s curious decisions were due to him looking after a certain section of the electorate in his attempt to become the MP for Edinburgh SW.
But the “Braid Estate” isn’t in SW.
https://www.bcomm-scotland.independent.gov.uk/sites/default/files/edinburgh_south_5.pdf
So, is he doing this for potential voters who want to drive along Braid Road?
Meanwhile the actual MP for the area seems to be silent - at least on Twitter and the bits of his website I looked at.
Found this -
This is almost 10 years old -
What’s going on?
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Opponents of low traffic schemes have succeeded in turning it into a kind of culture war hot potato. Since the benefits are known via peer reviewed research but the outrage is very loud, the only way for a politician to really win is to avoid commenting at all
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As former Labour voters, Ian Murray has been informed he’s lost our vote
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@chdot - classic POP shot. That is Kezia Dugdale with Ian Murray?
@neddie Labour lost council seat to Scottish Greens in Hillhead I see. Was going to mention events elsewhere also being a factor that might lose them votes but think that's for another forum.
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Kevin Lang:
We need to face reality – we are not doing enough on road safety. Now, with more money promised and a growing road safety team at the council, this must change. It’s our responsibility, our duty, to act to make our streets safer.
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