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Greenbank to Meadows Quiet Route
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Posted 1 month ago #
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We need to face reality – we are not doing enough on road safety.
- Kevin LangYes, just hours after you put in an emergency motion to "ensure we act just as soon as the police report is received and conclusions are known", after a child died, Kevin Lang voted to remove a scheme that keeps school children safe.
Sickening
Posted 1 month ago # -
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Update March 2024
The good, the bad, the ugly…
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https://blackfordsaferoutes.co.uk/braid-estate-and-whitehouse-loan/
Posted 1 month ago # -
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#BraidEstate
Excellent summary of Transport Cttee #EdinWebcast debate & bad decision
https://blackfordsaferoutes.co.uk/braid-estate-and-whitehouse-loan/
NB, as we understand it, filter removal is just next stage in ongoing legal ETRO process.
Cllrs can reinstate filters at end of process, after monitoring the new setup“
Posted 1 month ago # -
I am a great fan of Spokes. I also understand they want to keep friendly relations with officials and councillors.
However, while legally correct, that post is nonsense. After rejecting impassioned, well argued and fact based deputations at last week's meeting, does anyone seriously think that Labour, Lib Dem and Tory councillors are going to u-turn on this issue? They have taken the political hit for this decision - why would they take another hit from the 'anti' side? It's not like it would bring any of us back onside.
The filters are gone and are not coming back.
Posted 1 month ago # -
“The filters are gone and are not coming back.“
Presumably “gone” in the sense that there has been a vote to remove them?
Officials still have to draw up, revised, detailed proposals and a list of which currently planned AT projects would be postponed/cancelled.
In parallel (other?) officials have to draw up ‘emergency’ proposals for Whitehouse Road (not Loan as the Police managed to Tweet!).
Of course it may be that Labour maintains its Party discipline in defence of its precious minority administration. This because of subservience to Anas Sarwar’s decree of ‘no deals with the SNP.
The LibDems may continue to restrain some of its Cllrs from saying what they believe.
It’s not merely that ‘we’ want things to different.
“After rejecting impassioned, well argued and fact based deputations at last week's meeting”
These still stand and likely to be strengthened with the new reports PLUS the long awaited report on School Travel.
ALL expected at the next TEC.
Don’t despair, organise!
Posted 1 month ago # -
There's simply no way politically they can reopen the road, splash half a million on upmarket segregation then re-filter the estate. Anyone hoping for that is just setting themselves up for crushing disappointment.
I think perhaps a more productive angle would be to try and build momentum to save the northern end of the route?
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It'll be harder for them to attack the northern end if they're busy dealing with the fall out from the southern. Let's keep the battle frontline to the south
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Anyone hoping for that is just setting themselves up for crushing disappointment.
The residents are regrouping and setting themselves up for the fight. This isn’t going to go down quietly. Councillors need to learn they can’t just rip out schemes without serious backlash. It ain’t over till it’s over.
Cycle campaigners would do well to back the residents. Otherwise it’ll be: “First they came for the Braid estate, but I was not one of them, then they came for…”
Posted 1 month ago # -
Is CEC going for some sort of Vision Zero approach? Or Vision Collateral Damage Is OK?
I am too old not to be cynical.
I think there is a golden opportunity for some sort of "Vision Zero? Zero Vision!" sloganeering.
Posted 1 month ago # -
I spent half an hour filming around Braid av and it's really mind blowing to think that they have voted to reopen the rat runs. Hardly any cyclists relatively speaking, maybe one a minute, but loads of people walking hither and thither in the peace and quiet.
Just around the corner I filmed the new junction with the double zebra. So unpleasant! There was actually a fair amount of considerate driving but I can't think of a junction to beat it in the "you're convinced there will be a crash any minute" competition
Posted 1 month ago # -
There's a fair amount of inconsiderate driving around that area IME. Just yesterday I was proceeding along Hermitage Drive at a stately, GPS-confirmed 20mph when the wee silver hatchback behind me pulled out and overtook and pulled away going at least 30mph. Predictably enough, I pulled up directly behind it as we waited for peds to cross at the double zebra. Totally pointless MGIF/speed limits don't apply to me behaviour.
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I suspect things are going to get much worse than people expect. The mini-roundabout at Hermitage Drive/Braid Road acted as something of a brake on vehicle speeds along Braid Road. Its removal hasn't had any noticeable impact yet, as the Braid Road filter requires traffic to slow and turn. Once the filter is removed cars have a new, unrestricted run along Braid Road.
That's going to look pretty attractive to drivers facing tailbacks and multiple traffic lights on Comiston Road.
Posted 1 month ago # -
Someone should do a bit of a project to capture great video of the way it is now, nice days with schools walking about etc, so that it's not possible for future filtering to be so lightly dismissed once memory fades
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Worth a whole YouTube channel…
School(s) project even.
Posted 1 month ago # -
Truth, half-truth or?
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The “Quiet Route” between Greenbank and Cluny Gardens is a legacy Spaces for People project which is more controversial than it should be due to problematic consultations in the past, and the flawed way in which the opposition parties reopened Braid Road. At that point I requested that the reopening ‘should include consideration of a more clearly defined cycle route between Greenbank Crossroads and the Meadows, and how this interfaces with Comiston Road’, but this was blocked by the Edinburgh Greens.
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Posted 3 weeks ago # -
Designs for the implementation of Option 3 using
temporary materials are progressing well. It is anticipated
that implementation of the scheme, including speed
reducing measures where appropriate, will proceed during
autumn 2024 following completion of the designs, a Road
Safety Audit, and a construction tender process.Posted 1 week ago # -
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#Edinwebcast #Greenbank/#Meadows
@CllrScottArthur amend't to make it 100% clear that the previously-agreed option 3 is experimental, hence use cheap materials
The Order will be clear that Options 1 or 2 could be restored depending on the trial resultsAgreed (with minor change)
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Posted 13 hours ago #
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