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Yeah, there were a couple of short sections of paint only lanes, including the build outs, since 2008. Both on the eastbound side only.
The Travelling Safely added parking restrictions and wands along the full length of Duddingston Road, and 'adopted' theses existing features.
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Managed to find the full PDF plan of the Comiston Rd grinder elimination - it's from June last year, which dampens my enthusiasm slightly but there must be a reason Cllr Ross was passing it on to Mr Bailey and pals recently: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/36984/comiston-road-revisions-designs-1
I think the smart move would be to point out that this is a pedestrian focused improvement, with the change to the cycle lane a secondary issue (which is true as the real improvement is the pedestrian crossing of Braid Hills Road). Helps spike any "will no-one think of the poor pedestrian?" arguments.
Very good point. Still to work out under what programme of work / project it's meant to materialise under... or whether it's held off until next year when (if) Comiston Rd ETRO made permanent. Have asked Cllr Ben Parker if he knows.
Bit concerned there don't seem to be any Rosehill defenders (the black/white bollards) shown on the drawings.
Does that mean there is no protection, and it's just a mandatory painted-on lane?
I took the double line to mean defenders - council officer David Sinclair mentioned at TRO sub that one way the visibility of the bases of orca bollards was improved was by the team deciding to double up on white lines, one either side of the bollard unit. To me, this also seems to lend to a sort of visual space reservation for replacing with kerb segregation? But certainly I'd take this to mean protection at double lined sections.
Fair. Although other drawings I've seen have explicitly stated "Rosehill defenders x off" with square spots marking their locations
@bakky - the diagram you linked to lists the project as "Dropped Kerb phase 2b". The changes are far more than installing a dropped kerb, but who knows how these things are classified.
@bakky: Unfortunately, in the parking spaces on Comiston Road some drivists seem to regard those double lines as a guide to where their nearside wheels should be, thus putting cyclists using the segregated lane even closer to their door zone.
I would be in favour of the wands being replaced by kerb segregation sooner or later, not least because it might deter those who seem to regard the gaps between the wands as being parking spaces on the cycle lane (two encounters with such on one northbound journey last week, grrr).
@ejstubbs I too have encountered many a questionable parking job on said doubles or just square in the lane.
One auld lad I challenged explained he was parked in the cycle lane because he had to take a call about his alcoholic son. I explained that while I was very sorry to hear about his family issues he still needed to park somewhere actually legal as ‘important phone call’ is not a lawfully protected state of being.
I believe, anecdotally or otherwise, that kerb segregation solves quite a lot of that kind of parking.
during the recent nice weather my neighbours and I have been noticing how many people get in their car, start the car, check their phone and then sit with engine idling for 10 minutes.
One of my neighbours decided to say something to one guy who got very upset because he "had just heard his wife was pregnant" .
Amazing the number of family emergencies that crop up as soon as someone starts their car.
Engine idling is one of these social behaviours that once you start thinking about it / someone points it out, you see it everywhere. Wildly prevalent.
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