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Greenbank to Meadows Quiet Route
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Posted 1 day ago #
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It's really not, and I don't think it's going to cope well when Braid Road reopens. I daresay if it had been open when the new Braidburn Terrace layout was designed we'd have a Toucan Crossing with a button that stops traffic rather than a Tiger crossing. It's one thing at the moment people stopping to give way when they have to turn, but when they're expecting to keep going north and down Braid Road I think people will be travelling faster and not stop.
Posted 1 day ago # -
Maybe a pile of bricks needs to be left either side of the crossing? Pick up a brick on approach...
Posted 1 day ago # -
For what it's worth, I think it's pretty serviceable in practice - more ebb and flow between modes rather than forcing pedestrians and cycles to stop as a Toucan would. And I sat there watching it for an hour while re-recording the static videos pre all the changes - I will link the video here when I stick them up on Youtube this week.
Posted 1 day ago # -
This is the first time cars will be able to travel the length of Braid Road following the removal of the mini-roundabout and a ban on vehicles turning from Braid Road into Braidburn Terrace.
It's hard to predict what will happen. Will the zebras provide a similar disincentive to drivers wishing to breeze through the junction? Or is the incentive just to put the foot down. Unfortunately, we are about to find out.
Posted 1 day ago # -
New ETRO has build-outs on Braid Rd between Braid Cres and Braidburn Cres - as with other bits of this ETRO it's hard to know what's 'Option 1' rollback and what's 'Option 3' going in during Sep/Oct, but hopefully these are included to slow things to a safer pace:
Posted 23 hours ago # -
They're similar to the chicane build-outs (shaped to give priority to uphill traffic) which were removed from the similarly-sloped Paisley Crescent a few years back, which were replaced with less-effective symmetrical pinch-lumps.
EDIT: Visible in 2012 imagery, gone by 2015: https://earth.google.com/web/@55.95114233,-3.14817047,53.51972955a,301.31002009d,35y,0h,0t,0r/data=ChYqEAgBEgoyMDEyLTA1LTIzGAFCAggBOgMKATBCAggASg0I____________ARAAPosted 13 hours ago # -
Yes, those should work for the north section but I'm concerned about the section down from the Braid Hills Hotel to the crossing there. People speed massively down that hill and if they think they're going straight on I'm not sure they'll slow now. Ironically that section was actually better when they had parked cars on the west side of the road as the narrowing made people slow down.
My ten year old has only just started crossing that every Friday to get home from Stage Club at Greenbank Parish Church so I'm already nervous about it with the current setup! I hope my fears are proven wrong.
I wonder how long implementation will take. If I remember correctly they agreed not to remove the filters until all the segregated lanes/chicanes/etc were in place.
Posted 10 hours ago # -
I think there's a strong argument to be made for further speed reduction measures on the south end, particularly as the lead-in for the tiger crossing from Braidburn Terrace is so obscured by a huge wall - so a lack of decent visibility of folks heading for the crossing. The crossing itself I believe is on a raised table, but there needs to be a measure further south to drop speed before this.
Posted 10 hours ago # -
“there's a strong argument to be made for further speed reduction measures … a huge wall”
Now there’s an idea…
Posted 10 hours ago #
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