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  1. chdot
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    “

    11 March 2026

    MEDIA RELEASE

    TWO EDINBURGH COUNCILLORS CENSURED FOR BREACHING THE COUNCILLORS' CODE OF CONDUCT

    At a Hearing held in the City Chambers on 11 March 2026, City of Edinburgh Councillors Neil Ross and Marie-Clair Munro were censured by the Standards Commission for having breached the Councillors' Code of Conduct. This was for failing to declare an interest when matters concerning the Braid Estate 'Quiet Route' were being considered at meetings of the Council's Transport and Environment Committee and at a workshop.

    Dr Lezley Stewart, Standards Commission Member and Chair of the Hearing Panel,

    “

    More -

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mBL4ezJuStL45CTMtHa-hCNthlLzBWcI/view

    Posted 2 months ago #

  2. chdot
    Admin

    Excellent commentary here -

    https://bsky.app/profile/edi.bike/post/3mgsgah7qws2o

    Posted 2 months ago #

  3. gembo
    Member

    Good they were censured BUT will this be returned to and the route reinstated?

    Posted 2 months ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

    Previously -

    “

    Transport convener Scott Arthur, backing the removal of filters from the Braid estate and the new segregated cycle lane, said it was a difficult issue because of the competing demands Transport convener Scott Arthur, backing the removal of filters from the Braid estate and the new segregated cycle lane, said it was a difficult issue because of the competing demands..

    “

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-traffic-planters-in-morningsides-braid-estate-to-go-despite-pleas-over-safety-4547290

    Posted 2 months ago #

  5. gembo
    Member

    I thought the locals liked it as it stopped rat running except the ones funded by oil companies such as these two walloping councillors?

    Posted 2 months ago #

  6. bakky
    Member

    @gembo after many delays to the change from filters to protected lanes, they were due in January but delayed again due to said standards hearing. So work scheduled for (if I recall correctly) April will only go ahead if TEC doesn’t revisit this. Which is ideal, as it would be a significant waste of money just to find out through monitoring what we already know - that residential streets are safer with less through-traffic.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  7. chdot
    Admin

    “I thought the locals liked it“

    Ah well

    There’s locals and the right sort of locals…

    Posted 2 months ago #

  8. bakky
    Member

    There are some particularly militant locals who buck the trend and make a tremendous ruckus, including that they know and understand the various ETRO and TRO processes even though they’ve repeatedly demonstrated they know about as much on the subject as I do about writing short sentences.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  9. gembo
    Member

    Chas booth moving in for the kill

    Posted 2 months ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2026/03/two-edinburgh-councillors-censured-by-the-standards-commission/

    Posted 2 months ago #

  11. chdot
    Admin

    https://bsky.app/profile/chasbooth.bsky.social/post/3mgsixhys4s2c

    Posted 2 months ago #

  12. bakky
    Member

    Also https://bsky.app/profile/dastonsnp.bsky.social/post/3mgshdoxwa22u

    Posted 2 months ago #

  13. pringlis
    Member

    "Absolute scenes" as the kids say. What a mess. I'm still a little dissatisfied that there was no clear explanation as to _why_ Cllr Ross substituted in on the vote. I still have my suspicions that it's because Cllr Dijkstra-Downie would have voted the other way, which if I recall correctly (can't find the vote results) would have swung things. I absolutely agree that the decision does now need to be revisited.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  14. neddie
    Member

    Yes, I think it's likely that Cllr Dijkstra-Downie didn't want to be seen towing the party line, so abstained and substituted Ross

    Posted 2 months ago #

  15. bakky
    Member

    @pringlis that substitution is such a weird aspect - definitely off either way. If Ross subs in because he lives in the area and has a vested interest that's very clear intent to violate code of conduct... And otherwise being allowed to 'tag out' of a committee vote because of party line is another weird aspect, to me. If Lib Dems were doing so because of the latter they could surely have foreseen having someone who lives in the area sub in being problematic. Maybe it's both.

    Cllr Jenkinson on Bluesky this morning:

    In light of this decision my Transport & Environment Committee will now have to revisit the vote taken on the Braids Estate LTN.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/two-edinburgh-councillors-censured-after-breaching-code-of-conduct-5629175

    Posted 2 months ago #

  16. pringlis
    Member

    Scott Arthur also said on Facebook that they'll have to "redo" the vote. Whatever that means.

    Cllr Munro is standing as an MSP in Edinburgh South, I wonder if this means she'll have to drop out. The Daily Record already did a bit of a hit piece on her for being sacked by MTV for faking her age on her passport so they may pick up on this too.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  17. chdot
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    I’d forgotten SA wasn’t Transport Convenor when this all began -

    https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2022/06/the-big-interview-cllr-scott-arthur-on-a-new-approach-to-dealing-with-bins-and-potholes/

    From link in first post in this thread -

    “

    Options 1 & 2 – I feel it is a mistake not to consider the option of reopening the road completely (as a benchmark if nothing else). I also feel an additional scenario of Option 2 with two-way traffic should be considered. Can these be included?
    Council Response – A full re-opening can be considered at each review.

    “

    https://drscottarthur.wordpress.com/2020/09/01/braid-road-briefing-a-full-re-opening-of-braid-road-is-not-proposed-at-this-stage/

    Posted 2 months ago #

  18. chdot
    Admin

    “(as a benchmark if nothing else)”

    Mmm

    Posted 2 months ago #

  19. neddie
    Member

    We've had 100 years of "open" road benchmark - and it hasn't worked

    Posted 2 months ago #

  20. neddie
    Member

    Cllr Munro is no longer on the Transport and Environment Ctte.

    She has been substituted for Whyte and Cuthbert who are both very experienced and far more dangerous

    Posted 2 months ago #

  21. chdot
    Admin

    https://edi.bike/articles/2026-03-15-braids-estate-filters-return-to-transport-committee/

    Posted 2 months ago #

  22. chdot
    Admin

    “

    Cllr Munro said: “I gained no financial advantage whatsoever from this decision, as the Standards Commission recognise.

    “The investigation originally claimed that I lived within the Braid Estate. This was incorrect, and the lead investigator apologised for that error during the meeting.

    “

    https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2026/03/17/edinburgh-councillor-disputes-code-of-conduct-breach/?ref=edinburghminute.com

    Posted 2 months ago #

  23. pringlis
    Member

    I'm fairly sure she does actually live in the Braid Estate it's just that people use the term loosely.

    A friend who's a member of the tennis club recently sent me a link to The Braid Tennis Club who published a booklet showing the extent other the estate - https://clubspark.lta.org.uk/Library/BraidLTC?command=Proxy&lang=en&type=Files&currentFolder=%2F&hash=636b90f29e0a250e6474d564ead9a33feaef979f&fileName=4461446%20Booklet%20v1-1.pdf

    From The Herald

    She said: “I live on Braid Avenue, north of Cluny Gardens. Where I live is outside the Braid estate.”

    The map shows it's part of the estate... Either way, it's directly north of the modal filters that would be removed so of course it's relevant.

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  24. Morningsider
    Member

    The Standards Commission never claimed Cllr Munro gained any financial advantage from the decision or that she lived directly on the Quiet Route within the Braid Estate. This is what the media release from the Standards Commission says about where Cllr Munro lived:

    The Panel found that, at the time of a meeting of the Transport and Environment Committee in June 2023 and a workshop for elected members in August 2023, Cllr Ross lived on the road parallel to the road that was the subject of the ‘Quiet Route’. It further found that Cllr Munro lived on the road itself (albeit at a part that was not included as part of proposed redesigned route) at the time of both the meeting and workshop, and a later meeting of the Transport and Environment Committee in March 2024. As such, the Panel was satisfied a connection existed between both Respondents and the Quiet Route that was the subject of the item being onsidered at the meetings and workshop.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  25. gembo
    Member

    I have a very good friend whose spatial awareness or maybe his geographical sense of where he is at is very poor indeed. When we shared a flat in Argyle place I could take him for a walk up that funny wee alley with all the glass on top of the walls and if I ran off he could be lost for days.

    I think this councillor maybe has the same condition. I did once briefly consider leaving her stuck in the bowels of the City Chambers without her pass and she would never have been heard of again but 1.There was another witness b. I maybe took pity iii. She is maybe not the worst of them [maybe] - when she had chased after the other person/witness without her pass to get back in.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  26. neddie
    Member

    Braid Avenue, north of Cluny Gardens. Where I live is outside the Braid estate."

    Unfortunately, the name "Braid Estate" has entered popular parlance as the area to describe the southern half of the Greenbank - Meadows Quiet route. Namely, the "Clunys", Braid Avenue, the "Midmars", the "Corrennies", Hermitage Dr, and the northern half of Braid Rd. Braid Avenue, where Munro lives, is in the area now commonly known, and referred to in council documents, as the "Braid Estate".

    The actual 'original' Braid Estate is to the south of that again, and was originally the location of the Braid Rd closure (now removed). This area would be better named the "Braid Hills Estate".

    So it's all got a bit conflated / confused, and Munro has used that (misled) to her advantage. Quelle surprise!

    Posted 2 months ago #

  27. neddie
    Member

    Braid Avenue is also very much part of, and lies directly on, the Quiet Route

    Posted 2 months ago #

  28. bakky
    Member

    It is peak Tory nonsense to claim both that the Braid Estate filters significantly displace traffic to surrounding streets at TEC, and then directly dispute that you're affected by living on an adjacent street when making decisions about it.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  29. pringlis
    Member

    I don't want to take us off topic to much but this particular Tory councillor has an interesting history of falsehoods... She was sacked from MTV for falsifying her birth certificate and passport to show she was 5 years younger than she was! A platform of integrity my arse.

    https://archive.is/SZvxf

    Posted 2 months ago #

  30. neddie
    Member

    Ooops, this part is not correct and I retract it (after being able to view pringlis's image)

    The actual 'original' Braid Estate is to the south of that again, and was originally the location of the Braid Rd closure (now removed)

    Posted 2 months ago #

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