So, from a quick scan... kicking the can down the road until TRO Sub Committee meets on the 2nd of June and then likely a decision between Keep As-Is, or Remove Entirely? Or maybe tweak to remove the Braid Estate but keep the Whitehouse Loan section... sounds like the segregated lanes, etc are off the menu?
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Greenbank to Meadows Quiet Route (Inc Braid Road/Estate)
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@ pringlis
Now down to politicians at TEC and the dodgy sub
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Taking into account all relevant considerations, acknowledging the balance of representations received to the current trial scheme, received in response to the advertising of both TRO/21/29 and TRO/21/29D and recognising the short length of time before the TRO/21/29D expires, officers feel that Option C is the most appropriate course of action. This would allow all objections and representations to be considered in a quasi-judicial committee.
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Right, but if Councillors go with the recommendation of Option C then that only considers the current scheme as-is though, from my read. The proposed changes with the segregated lanes/etc are off the table. So with Option C it'd be:
* Keep scheme exactly as is but with permanent materials
* Remove scheme in entirety
* Remove part of scheme (probably the "Braid Estate" section, but keep northern sections)I'm not sure what outcome of this meeting I prefer! I don't like that it turns into a high stakes all or nothing for the southern section, but equally if they go with Option B of advertising the new scheme then many parts of the current scheme that I do like would definitely be removed.
I suppose one advantage of moving to TRO Sub Committee meeting is that there's more time to campaign...
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How has it come to this? Really, how? In a country and city that have declared a climate emergency, with policies to reduce car use and increase cycling and walking, tackle record levels of inactivity and obesity, reduce air and noise pollution, and develop 20-minute neighbourhoods.
We have a super low cost intervention (just six modal filters), proven to reduce total traffic. Welcomed by many residents and with no meanigful negative impact on business or public services. In place for five years...and it could be removed!?
This is the only meaningful active travel intervention south of the Meadows/Bruntsfield Links I have seen in my lifetime. Myself and my family have directly benefitted from this. Micro-Morningsider took her first solo cycle to the Meadows just a couple of weeks ago - only possible due to the quiet route.
The thought this could be removed makes me sick. Doubly so as there is no upside - just a moments gratification for a handful of car-brained dinosaurs, before they move on to their next facebook induced bloodvessel buster from the "clowncil".
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And why are The Braid Estate's modal filters so contentious when there are plenty of other examples in Edinburgh that are permanent? Most examples I can think of were put in to benefit road noise and safety by preventing drivers circumventing major traffic light controlled junctions.
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A bit more for you;
Option C: Officers have implied that there is no strong basis for removal of measures within the objections that TRO Sub would consider.
TRO Sub has been a pain in the past, but there's also no party whip there for votes. While it's quasi-judicial, external groups can still be applying scrutiny, comms campaigns and pressure in the run-up to the vote.
Option B: This is what we would have had if the Standards Commission stuff hadn't happened - the 'Option 3' cycleways on Hermitage Gdns and Braid Ave. But this would leave council open to judicial review as the very plans are perjured by the involvement of councillors with a vested interest. Most legally risky route.
Option C would need follow-up work to try and establish the tweaks that improve the Braids LTN and leaks in the northern end, namely:
- The filter for Clifton Rd
- Rotation of Braid Avenue filter to reduce persistent rat running through
- Introduction of north end Braid Rd filter to discourage traffic passing south end Braid Rd filter then turning left-left down Hermitage Gdns then Braid Cres to reach Braid Rd and rat-run it to Morningside.All of these are not in current ETRO but would have been in new one (along with some road marking renewals and additions for the Buckstone shops to Hermitage end of Braid Rd).
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“How has it come to this? Really, how? In a country and city that have declared a climate emergency, with policies to reduce car use and increase cycling and walking, tackle record levels of inactivity and obesity, reduce air and noise pollution, and develop 20-minute neighbourhoods.“
Valid Q and good summary of many issues
Valid Q and good summary of things that have informed CEC POLICIES
In short (I suggest) primarily lack of Leadership by Cllrs.
I DO blame SA for a lot of this - particularly in relation to the ‘Braid Estate’
Also the aftermath of the last election where ‘anyone but SNP’ was the imperative of some of the Cllrs
The (notionally) ruling group is (to a large extent) subject to the wishes of the Ts&LDs
But apart from such dubious ways of ‘running’ the City, there’s the decades long acceptance of car use as normal, sacred even, and drivers, largely, seen as more important than those who can’t afford (or choose not to demand unfettered use of) cars
Imagine Edinburgh without 50 years of Spokes or all the activist hours spent on this tiny inconvenience to a tiny minority
Well done to all involved in this campaign that shouldn’t need to exist
And shame on all those who play selfish games and don’t consider others
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