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Greenbank to Meadows Quiet Route (Inc Braid Road/Estate)
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Posted 1 month ago #
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You're the Admin, you're allowed to break the forum. ;-)
Posted 1 month ago # -
Yeah
Problem is, not sure if I did
When this happens, there’s no trace
Usually someone PMs and says their post ‘isn’t visible’
So unless they do, it’s a mystery…
Posted 1 month ago # -
A date has been set for the removal of one of Edinburgh's most controversial street closures in recent times.
Posted 4 weeks ago # -
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The work is due to start on Monday August 17 and is expected to take three days“
Thought they was a ‘Festival moratorium’?
Maybe just city centre
Posted 4 weeks ago # -
Removal of the barriers at Cluny Drive and Braid Avenue has commenced today.
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
The Cluny Drive/Hermitage Gardens one is also currently being removed.
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
Please remind me
What is current status of CEC ‘plan’ to replace/reinstate/do better?
And need for consultation/TROs etc etc
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
Review in 12 months time. There will be "monitoring" of the situation in the meantime, whatever that means.
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
IT. WILL. NEVER. END!
(I've been going at this since 2018, nearly 8 years)
I once had hopes they would roll out low-traffic neighbourhoods across the entire city. It's such a simple, effective, and obvious thing to do. London is now miles ahead, with loads of LTNs and 450km of protected cycleways
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
Instagram served me up some videos from the Labour candidate for Southside/Newington, including this one of five cycle paths she wished she knew about when moving to Edinburgh six years ago (though I think only two were actually there back then).
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DafUrz8sTOa/
Number five is "Meadows Quiet Route", which is presumably the one in this thread which is being removed? (by the administration she's hoping to be a part of)
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
Interesting find, thanks for sharing!
The "Meadows Quiet Route" isn't being removed as such - the route will still be a designated Quiet Route and signposted appropriately. They're just crossing their fingers and hoping that by removing the barriers on the section in the Braid Estate it'll still remain Quiet and not revert to being a rat run. The planters in her video on Whitehouse Loan are being retained so that section at least should remain relatively quiet!
It'll still be a good cycling route, it's "just" that part of it will (IMO) no longer be Quiet and become much more difficult for less confident cyclists, including school children who currently use it to get to school, to navigate.
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
They're just crossing their fingers and hoping
I'm fairly sure that 'hope' is incompatible with with desired behavioural change when it relates to motorists who are presented with a large increase in road capacity but who have not been asked not to take advantage.
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
Well, Morningside Road is shut near the clock junction and I expect the newly reopened "Quiet" route will be getting its first serious rat-running experience shortly.
I'll be riding it later. Joy
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
I rode southbound through the Braid estate at lunch time today. Can't really comment on traffic as it was neither rush hour nor school drop-off or pick up times. What did surprise me were the road markings on the quiet route. Priority has been given to traffic turning from what are clearly side roads onto larger north/south roads. This didn't feel particularly safe. While there are road markings, all the other visual clues indicate traffic running north/south should have priority.
Feels like it would be quite easy for an inattentive driver to barrel through these newly painted junctions and into a cyclist, who technically has priority.
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
@Morningsider (at the risk of sounding grumpy so please just take this as an infodump!) those are longstanding arrangements that prioritise quiet route users over car through-traffic and are not new, they are just freshened up at the same time as the filters coming out. They are massively lacking appropriate signage at these junctions, but it would have been a significant further dilution of the aims of the route to have them returned to standard side road give-ways. Taken as a whole - cycle affordances on Braidburn Ter, 2 x parallel crossings, the filter on Braid Rd and then the three ‘sweepies’ with unconventional priority, they are what make that section of Woodburn Ter to Braidburn Valley usable and have (at least until this point) been largely incident-free in our use of the route.
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
No rational idea why I did this but I just scrolled through all 176 comments on Cllr Marie-Clair Munro's Facebook post about the reopening.
How utterly depressing. These people walk among us.
Actually... they probably mainly drive among us.
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
The important thing to remember when venturing into such toxic spaces is that's 176 vs. the thousands of folks living along the quite route who like and support the changes (barring the removal of the filters at Cluny Drive), even if they don't do so loudly.
Dodgy Debbie's FB page is a hive of nasty echoes that achieves nothing but barking into the void, pretty much regardless of what she posts about.
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
Last night there were quite a few impatient drivists hooning down Braid Avenue at Great Speed in an attempt to avoid the congestion caused by the road closure. However that wasn't too bad as it is a wide wide road and they were going the opposite way to me.
Using the contraflow on Braidburn Terrace (not directly affected by the filter removal) was unpleasant due to higher than usual number of rat-runners trying to reach Hermitage Drive who were most put out to meet a cyclist coming the other way.
Some loser in big dumb Audi SUV got stuck with backside of vehicle hanging out into the main road which created a nice opportunity for me to cross to Greenbank, serenaded by much honking from other drivists which was entertaining.
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
The western section of Canaan Lane has a small section of roadworks at the moment. It is on the south side of the road (i.e. not the cycle lane side). Space for cars to get around (by crossing onto the cycle lane).
Westbound cyclists are greeted with the following instruction:
"Cyclists dismount"
Eastbound cyclists get:
"Cycle lane closed"
But no restrictions for cars.
Hmmm.
Posted 1 week ago # -
Sounds like a perfectly normal prioritisation of traffic to me. ‘Cyclists go home’.
On a more serious note the westbound dismount signage is getting removed according to an email I saw last night from a roads engineer
Posted 1 week ago # -
Can you see an email explaining
a) why such signs exist?
b) who authorised its use?
c) if it will be donated to Spokes as a competition prize?
Posted 1 week ago #
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