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Could someone help me to update Open Street Maps with the closures?I've added notes, but the changes to the streets to add "motor traffic = no" look complicated, because I would have to split the road into two sections, one closed, one open.
Brilliant if no one else has done so I'll do this tonight.
@algo - thanks for that.
Looks to have been done now: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/98659806#map=15/55.9321/-3.2014
@neddie the modal filters have been added from your notes (though check they are in the right places). Is Canaan Lane still one way south of the road closure?
Think it would be worth someone posting a video of the whole quiet route on Twitter to show off the changes/improvements.
Show also make sure Google fixes their map as well - right click and choose "report data problem" then mark the section as closed.
Thanks for that @boothym
The filter on Canaan Ln is slightly further south of where it's been put on the map - immediately south of the entrance to the flats. This picture here might help:
Pics of all the filters here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bonsai_bonus/albums/72157718148425858
Note that the picture and video with the cars in - those cars shouldn't have been there - they were cheekily driving through
Now, does anyone have an active Waze account, that can modify the Waze map?
(I would try to do this, but apparently you have to "go for a drive" with the app first, before you can edit it) <face meet palm>
"go for a drive"
Wouldn’t cycling work?
Wouldn’t cycling work?
Probably. That's the first thing I'll try, but I'm not able to get out tonight or tomorrow. So if anyone has an active account it would be better if they could do it
I was a bit disappointed that there wasn't any signage to say that you could actually cycle through (let alone that it was a new cycle route!).
Has anyone seen what the _other_ Canaan Lane filter near South Morningside looks like? Is it in the middle of Canaan Lane outside South Morningside Primary School, as shown in the map, or at the actual existing location at the intersection with Woodburn Terrace?
Saw the north end of this last night. Lovely start to a great project.
A taxi drove into the bit outside the school like a bluebottle newly released from a fridge.
I've reported the three new modal filters to Google Maps, by using the "report a data issue" function. If approved, they won't appear visually on the map, but people will be routed around the blocked sections when they ask Google Maps for directions (also in the app).
@pringlis - had a pootle through this afternoon. The Canaan Lane filter at St Peter's hasn't moved - still at the junction with Woodburn Terrace.
Where exactly is the other Canaan Lane filter? Assuming it's an actual road closure and not just the exiting one way + contraflow cycle lane already in place?
Thanks @Morningsider. I had suspected that'd be the case.
@boothym: the current filter is at the junction of Woodburn Terrace/Canaan Lane, on the bit of Canaan Lane that goes along past SMPS to the Canny Man's/Morningside Road. It isn't really a filter per se, just some signs which are frequently collapsed and even more frequently ignored. It reduces the traffic slightly on the school dropoff/pickup but not enough that you can actually walk on the road and not safe enough for kids scooting/cycling for my liking.
A filter in the middle like in the Quiet Route map would have reduced through traffic more but would probably have resulted in my parents driving along to drop the kids off just outside the gate.
To all our #Bruntsfield and #Edinburgh customers, this week there are changes afoot outside our shop. This might mean you aren't allowed to drive up Whitehouse Loan and park outside the store.
https://twitter.com/edinburghbikes/status/1356942761468047360?s=21
Edinburgh Bicycle Coop have nothing positive to say about a route that will literally encourage more people to ride bikes, especially children, who once “in to it”, will probably ride bikes for the rest of their lives.
They seem more concerned about parking and driving than safe cycling. And nothing has changed with respect to parking, you can still park right outside their front door!
You couldn’t make it up. So depressing
Super disappointed. Hope their staff and members (they are still a co-op?) will have a word with their PR team.
Yes see my comment on the other thread where I speculate wildly about Mountain Biking and driving and how EBC has declined to even meet trouble half way. bring back Big Ged and Bill the Bike I say.
Do they sell many non mtb these days? Thought they made their position clear when they discontinued the courier.
Some road bikes, some hybrids and some electrics I guess. How popular is mountain biking? I know only mountain bikers who also commute and who also go with road cycling.
Their window is a mix. The second edinburgh shop bigger on the Bromptons?
Judging by the car park at glentress, very.
They sell a lot of kids bikes. I’ve seen countless families in there
You can see the modal filters in action on OSM's routing and soon they'll be included in other apps which use OSM data: https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=55.93504%2C-3.20138%3B55.93780%2C-3.20336#map=17/55.93621/-3.20027
The closures aren't yet active on Google Maps' traffic view though.
This is great! Thanks for that boothym
Rather amusingly, the entire quiet route itself has been added to Google Maps as a closure - effectively creating virtual filters on Newbattle Terr/Cluny Dr/Hermitage Gdns etc:
And importantly that means if you Google Maps for route planning, it routes that way if you specify walking or cycling. Cars are directed via Morningside Road.
Anyone know which driving apps/satnavs use Google and automatically get this update?
I've been in a hire car whose satnav didn't know about the Queensferry crossing and got somewhat confused when we drove across the sea. It was quite funny once we realised what the problem was...
@chdot: Anyone know which driving apps/satnavs use Google and automatically get this update?
Pretty much anyone who uses Google Maps or Waze (owned by Google since 2013) on their phone for navigation will get it. I think those apps and other, less popular ones, are becoming the norm for yer average drivist, especially with phone interfaces like Android Auto and Apple CarPlay commonly being built in to car ICE systems these days.
Standalone (Garmin, Tom Tom etc) or fully integrated satnav used to get updates via an SD card or optical disc, or indirectly over the 'net via a PC. In some cases, particularly with integrated satnav, the media were only made available to dealers, so you had to pay to get the updates installed. More commonly nowadays they are getting, or can get, updated directly over the 'net. But if you already have a multifunctional network-connected device in your pocket, there seems to be little point in buying another such device for a single purpose.
Posher new cars are coming with built-in mobile network connectivity these days so that they can "call home" when they think they're poorly, or have been in an accident. In vehicles like that an integrated satnav can get its updates that way. I don't know who the dominant satnav providers are in that market at the moment but it wouldn't surprise me if Google starts making inroads sooner or later with Android Automotive, in much the same way that it is trying to do with Android TV in smart TVs and set-top boxes.
Thanks!
Our car came with an inbuilt Garmin (from late 2017 I think). It requires to be manually updated using a USB drive.
However updates are only created once a year for it so nothing recent will appear.
We only realised it needed done because the Queensferry Crossing was missing so I wonder how many people are still driving with the maps their car came with.
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