(The cocaine bit might not be appropriate.)
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Greenbank to Meadows Quiet Route
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Posted 3 years ago #
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All the new cones I passed yesterday lunchtime were moved aside yesterday and had well established tyre tracks in the snow past them. I decided to be zen and just accept that this will only be an effective intervention when the planters come.
Posted 3 years ago # -
@Jnty - yep several of us are replacing them pretty much daily and some of the cones are appearing some distance from their original locations. Have asked the council about planters - I am waiting to hear a response as to whether we can just build them ourselves which seems like what might have to happen.
Posted 3 years ago # -
@algo
My woodworking skillz are yours. Planter in the shape of Lesley Macinnes's smiling face?
Posted 3 years ago # -
I insist that any DIY planters are playable musical instruments.
Cigar box guitars probably won't keep out the range rovers, but a cigar box double bass and some kettle drums might.
Posted 3 years ago # -
“My woodworking skillz are yours“
And workmate??
Guitar shaped planters?
Posted 3 years ago # -
@Frenchy
Immovable one tonne hurdy-gurdy you say? OK.
Posted 3 years ago # -
If the council published an approved design for planters then I think enough people would volunteer to make them to solve supply issues and save them some money.
Posted 3 years ago # -
“If the council published an approved design for planters“
Nah, I think local planters for local streets are appropriate.
CEC can supply soil/compost.
Posted 3 years ago # -
This would make a fab modal filter. Imagine how much fun the kids and adults would get out of it. They could use it as a bridge to cross the (empty) road:
Posted 3 years ago # -
@neddie: that would detract from the historic nature of the area; far better to use something that is sympathetic to the surrounding architecture. I propose a couple of Range Rovers abandoned sideways across the road.
Posted 3 years ago # -
This forum and the people on it are a constant source of joy and wonder.
This may well become a brilliant thing - we just need to source the wood.
For simplicity though @Stickman has it right - I reckon I can pick up a couple of knackered old Ford Transits from the breakers for not much and we could just dump them across the road and fill them with earth and plant some trees. I admit they aren't Range Rovers so not quite the right aesthetic, but we could slap a personalised number plate on and spray the windows black?
Posted 3 years ago # -
“we just need to source the wood”
First source always skips...
Posted 3 years ago # -
Planting advice
Rocket
Grows well even on poor soils
Nice flowers
Edible leaves
Posted 3 years ago # -
@stickman
Maybe not Range Rovers, but there's plenty of scrapped taxi bodies kicking about in fields now...
Plenty of imagination in London. Edinburgh seems a bit behind...
Posted 3 years ago # -
The whale with inner tubes as baleen. Let us make it so. New thread?
Posted 3 years ago # -
Wood you say?
Posted 3 years ago # -
There's also https://www.whyayewood.co.uk/ from Cockenzie
Posted 3 years ago # -
I think the main issue is that the Council procument process limits which suppliers they can use (as per many large organisations)
Posted 3 years ago # -
This response from the council about community supplied planters:
...have been advised that we can create space for planters to be installed by 3rd parties, but these planters would be wholly the responsibility of these 3rd parties and thus would need to be maintained by same 3rd parties, and they would need public liability insurance in place.Please can I have a rule 2 - just one?
Posted 3 years ago # -
That’s good.
Presume someone knows an insurance broker to ask?
Posted 3 years ago # -
PoP do and I have looked into it for our bike buses, but the main barrier is we need some formal "organisation" for us to take out such an insurance - I don't know of one - we (Blackford Safe Routes) have been looking into becoming a Community Interest Group but I got very tired and confused attempting to fill in all the legal stuff - if anyone knows how to do this though I'd be enormously grateful for any help.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Public liability insurance being used as a means of defeating public safety works merits a breach of Rule 2. in my books.
Posted 3 years ago # -
I would hope Spokes would be willing to take out the necessary insurance.
Obviously it would partly depend on the premium.
Let’s imagine it’s £100, must be 10 people on here willing to pay a tenner.
I would.
What’s the risk being insured, car hitting a planter after illegally driving on a closed road?
Not really a valid claim...
Posted 3 years ago # -
“Public liability insurance being used as a means of defeating public safety works“
Not really.
More CEC (apparently) being willing to allow ‘community use’ of public space without them being liable.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Can they not agree to sanction whatever the community builds and take on themselves? I understand if you build a planter out of unexploded bombs, but I'm sure we'd manage something a bit more mundane and predictable...
Posted 3 years ago # -
“Can they not agree to sanction whatever the community builds and take on themselves?“
Worth asking, but...
Is issue they don’t have time to organise planters or no budget or ‘usual suppliers’ have sold out?
Posted 3 years ago # -
Clearly ‘council should sort it’ is quite reasonable, but ‘we’ll let you ...’ might be useful.
Posted 3 years ago # -
thanks @chdot - I'll enquire with Spokes and see what they say about liability
Posted 3 years ago # -
Could they not just chuck a few of those concrete sign weights down at the right spacing? Think that's what was done on George Street
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