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Leith Walk to Ocean Terminal Cycle Route (Leith Connections)

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  1. bakky
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    Some further info:

    - The junction with FOTW is apparently not under FOTWtoDockSt project but instead Trams to Newhaven

    - I apparently failed to use the junction as designed when setting off from FOTW, because apparently I'm meant to see a green cycle signal and instead of crossing the junction, travel three metres ahead to where there the next cycle signal is on red, preventing me from being hit by vehicles turning left from FOTW. This is extroadinary in terms of design, as the pavement sweeps away to the left and places that signal essentially out of my focus on the lane ahead. Why have the first signal at all?


    Image, annotation and correction on design of junction courtesy of Martin McDonnell of Spokes

    What's more, once I reach the awkward turn for the cycleway on the other side, there's another signal I'm meant to comply with, avoiding moving over the pedestrian crossing from Kirkgate to FOTW:


    Image, annotation and correction on design of junction courtesy of Martin McDonnell of Spokes

    This is wild to me. As compared with the vehicular cycling alternative of exiting Leith Walk on green and turning left into Great Junction St, they've managaged to make this a three-stage crossing worth probably in excess of five minutes of waiting. And it's not particularly clear, given I've managed to record what should be an example of using it properly and failed to use it properly in the process!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  2. LaidBack
    Member

    @bakky - that's 'hectic' - expensively designed to fail or be ignored! There are other double cycle lights going up LW at London Road crossing. These at least are in line of sight.

    I was coming back from Leith Links and headed for Leith Walk Followed signage and ended up cutting onto the FOTW tram stop. No obvious altetnative. Some signs still suggest as a route and Google route planner agree!

    Leith Links to Leith Walk missing link

    Leith Links to Leith Walk missing link

    Leith Links to Leith Walk missing link

    Posted 1 month ago #
  3. wingpig
    Member

    I need to start remembering to not use the Junction St lane when heading east, as it has a classic "takes you across the junction then dumps you back into traffic" system like at the top of Leith Street, but busier. Alternatively, no-one's actually stopping me turning left down Constitution St and then cutting through Laurie St, apart from me.
    There are likely to be a couple more bits like this with a wait to cross from one side to the other when they put in the Hawthornvale-to-Seafield stuff.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  4. Rob
    Member

    I apparently failed to use the junction as designed when setting off from FOTW, because apparently I'm meant to see a green cycle signal and instead of crossing the junction, travel three metres ahead to where there the next cycle signal is on red, preventing me from being hit by vehicles turning left from FOTW. This is extroadinary in terms of design, as the pavement sweeps away to the left and places that signal essentially out of my focus on the lane ahead. Why have the first signal at all?

    This is why I transfer to the bike box at the foot of the walk. When the main traffic light goes green you can go straight over to the cycle lane entrance, then immediately through the pedestrian crossing.

    I then have to wait at Henderson Street so I'm not sure how much time I save, but it sure is less annoying.

    Posted 1 month ago #

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