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Today’s rubbish consultation on consultations

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  1. gembo
    Member

    The george street consultation had 1,350 or so responses. 66 per. Cent positive.

    Good news story

    Unless you are ex Councillor Steve C scribbling in the EEN. Then the n7mbers whic( are good for a consultation are poor and the two thirds majority have given the wrong answer

    So he calls for consultation on consultations which give the wrong answers as far as he is concerned. The rock and rolll cafe owner who likes to park in pedestrianized areas and bike lanes has presumably opened a tab for the former councillor?

    Posted 3 years ago #

  2. chdot
    Admin

    Consultations and conspiracies!

    Posted 3 years ago #

  3. Stickman
    Member

    In every workplace I’ve worked at the internal communications teams, at least once a year, would send out a survey asking staff how they would like to be communicated with: more/less emails, more/less online, etc etc etc.

    Without fail the responses to the surveys would be fairly evenly split between wanting more/less emails, more/less online etc etc etc.

    The comms teams would then talk about “reflecting on these results and tailoring our output to your needs”, continue seemingly as normal then do another survey at a later date.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

    “Without fail the responses to the surveys would be fairly evenly split between wanting more/less emails, more/less online etc etc etc.“

    Ought to be easy to set up two email lists and then send half the people twice as many emails...

    Setting up two George Streets might be problematic.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  5. Frenchy
    Member

    Setting up two George Streets might be problematic.

    Queen St for those who want to be stuck in six lanes of traffic, George Street for everyone else?

    Posted 3 years ago #

  6. chdot
    Admin

    Good idea!

    Posted 3 years ago #

  7. chdot
    Admin

    Though QSt would be a lot better with less traffic.

    It’s probably more residential than most people realise.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  8. gembo
    Member

    Queen St is probably way more residential than George St. one of the objectors to the George St plans was about resident access. I found that really weird as not sure who if anyone lives on George St.

    I lived on thistle street from 1994 to 2001. Very residential but with interesting shops and bars. Does have traffic but the one way systems stop it being a total rat run.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  9. wingpig
    Member

    There's probably some way of finding the level of habitation - perhaps population density by street or postcode versus door count, or asking a resident's association, a member of whom I assume the old guy banging on about symmetry and statues of men at the initial consultation was. I would mostly go along QS in the morning or evening and never particularly noticed people obviously setting off for work of getting home, but then you can sometimes walk on a weekend morning along somewhere like Thirlestane Road where every door leads to at least eight multi-room flats without seeing any sign of life.

    Thistle/Hill/etc. streets seemed to attract an even mix of vehicles atending premises and those which were thundering along trying to escape after thinking they were taking a shortcut to avoid some traffic lights somewhere when I wandered along them at lunchtime. At least the tyre noise on the setts alerted you in plenty of time.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  10. MediumDave
    Member

    Inspired by @Rob I had a quick look at the output areas of the 2011 census that cover George street. They also cover bits of other streets (in the case of S00103349 quite a large area).

    https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/ods-web/area.html

    Area S00103352
    73 people, 38 households, 57.9% of households have no car or van

    approx 16 households with at least one vehicle

    Area S00103349
    92 people, 35 households, 57.1% of households have no car or van

    approx 15 households with at least one vehicle

    So a total of 31 households with at least one vehicle in the areas which cover George street.

    Maybe 40 vehicles total (there seem to be a couple of multi-vehicle households)

    Clearly rather more than 40 vehicles park on George st at the moment...

    Posted 3 years ago #

  11. gembo
    Member

    Thanks @medium dave

    Posted 3 years ago #

  12. chdot
    Admin

    “

    "When the orders and schedules were prepared last November.....some information relating to timings, the type of yellow lines and descriptions for side road measures was not totally accurate"

    “

    https://twitter.com/rsmcksg/status/1651183290135506944

    Posted 1 year ago #

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