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Direct Action 6pm Wednesday 23rd (Lanark Road Ride): and subsequent developments

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  1. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Frenchy & chdot: "Road markings and protected cycle lanes to be reinstated within the week according to the road crew."

    That tweet was dated 16th July. As of yesterday, 7th August, all that's been reinstated so far are some white lines. So two weeks overdue and counting...

    While riding up and down the cycle lanes yesterday - those parts that weren't blocked by parked cars & vans - I noticed that the surface is quite lumpy for much of its length. Maybe not as bad as the disintegrating surface outside the army reserve centre used to be* but still not as comfortable as, say, the tarmac that's been laid on the WoL walkway.

    (At the risk of starting a conspiracy theory: could the resurfacing of the WoL walkway to such a high standard be a sneaky prelude to the removal/non-replacement of the Lanark Road infrastructure, on the grounds that there will be no reason for cyclists not to use the walkway?)

    * Though it's difficult to know what that bit is like now because, predictably, in the absence of DYLs and marked parking spaces it's covered in parked cars.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  2. ejstubbs
    Member

    Meanwhile, in another part of southern Edinburgh: proceeding along Braid Road for the first time in a while earlier today, I noticed that the centre lines on the 'resurfaced' bit - including the double white lines over the brow of the hill by the golf club - have not yet been reinstated.

    Mind you, the centre line along the section past the Hermitage hasn't been replaced either, since it was (sadly) reopened both ways. And the "pedestrian crossing" at the Braidburn Terrace/Hermitage Drive junction is still extremely temporary-looking (and surely can't be compliant with any known standards for such things?) In fact that whole junction barely even qualifies as a work in progress - more of "a work we just got bored with and walked away".

    Posted 8 months ago #
  3. neddie
    Member

    They’re going to “discuss” Braid Rd (again, le sigh) at the council’s Transport Environment Ctte meeting on Thursday next week 17th

    Prepare yersels fae mair nonsense

    Posted 8 months ago #
  4. Morningsider
    Member

    Whenever you hear an Edinburgh Councillor speak about transport, remember that they are committed to achieving a 30% reduction in the distance driven by car in 2019 by the end of 2030. Given that car use is now back to, or even above, pre-covid levels that means we should notice a 0.4% fall in car traffic from current levels every month from now until December 2030.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Some Lanark Road related comments ‘strayed’ into WoL resurfacing thread -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21036&page=4#post-369631

    Must be something to do with the *notion* that WoL is being seen as the ‘preferred route’…

    Posted 8 months ago #
  6. neddie
    Member

    Aye, on that 30% reduction target…

    The only way they’re going to achieve that is by allocating every other road to either bikes or buses only. Starting today. Once done, then we can think about giving some space back to cars, once proper bike or bus facilities are built.

    Like they did in Bogotá Columbia

    Segregated cycle lanes are nice an aw, but there simply isn’t time to build them - start reallocating entire streets now. Same for painted-on bus lanes - too time consuming to deal with all the junctions

    Posted 8 months ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    I can confirm that the Rosehill Cycle Defenders will be reinstated on Lanark Road. I am currently in discussions with the contractor and the Council’s Road Works Co-ordination team, with a view of arranging the reinstatement works in the very near future.

    Thanks, Jack

    https://twitter.com/edinhelp/status/1689258515863363584

    A few unknown unknowns there…

    Posted 8 months ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Just rediscovered this

    We are looking at 7am to 7pm x 7 days, trial on Lanark Road coming soon.

    https://twitter.com/CllrScottArthur/status/1632491641159274496

    Mar 5, 2023

    (Bus lanes)

    ?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  9. Dave
    Member

    While I'm not upset at the hours increasing, we're on the 44 bus route and the bits which are slowest don't have bus lanes, for example down through Juniper Green and past the former brewery towards the junction with Ardmillan terrace. (Then of course there's the zero enforcement element making it kind of irrelevant what the hours are!)

    Posted 8 months ago #
  10. acsimpson
    Member

    Was there not talk of using the bus cameras for enforcement?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  11. Dave
    Member

    Unfortunately that requires the SNP in Holyrood to put them on the list of approved cameras, something which seems like light admin but apparently is too difficult politically.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    Lines are finally being repainted and the lane protectors are being marked up for return. These inadequate traffic splitter crossing points were kept clear when double yellows painted and of course immediately blocked by parked cars once the resurfacing covered them.

    https://twitter.com/agordonsalive/status/1695017961558360569?

    Also appears that speed and traffic volumes being monitored in this corridor at present which is good to see.

    https://twitter.com/agordonsalive/status/1695058101676679271?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  13. ejstubbs
    Member

    Proceeding westwards along Lanark Road yesterday, I spotted a crew installing wands to protect the eastbound cycle lane, starting from the Gillespie Road junction. Still no DYLs for most of the length of the cycle lanes, though, or marked parking spaces or bus stops.

    (There were some DYLs for a few hundred metres east of the Gillespie Road junction, but I'm not sure whether they might have been there before, to stop people parking near the junction. I don't normally go as far as the traffic lights, preferring to access Gillespie Road towards Colinton village via the newly 'resurfaced' Spylaw Bank Road and Spylaw Avenue.)

    Posted 7 months ago #
  14. ejstubbs
    Member

    Brief update on Lanark Road cycle lanes: looks like the wands have been installed eastbound as far as a somewhere between Spylaw Bank Road and Hailes Gardens. And that's it. Not exactly what you would call rapid progress, and there was no sign of any bodies working on it when I passed by this morning.

    I get the impression that the team I saw working on it on Thursday did not return on the Friday.

    You can bet your life that infrastructure for motor vehicles wouldn't have been left unusable for this long.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  15. ejstubbs
    Member

    Lanark Road cycle lanes as of today (15/9/23): wands in place heading in to town as far as the public park on the right. Still no DYLs so still lots of parking on the cycle lane, including between the wands. Nothing in the other direction, and no parking spaces or bus stop markings in either direction.

    This is one day short of two months since the local community council tweeted that road markings and cycle lanes were to be reinstated "within the week". So, out by a factor of eight, and counting....

    Posted 7 months ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    We queried this again back on 7th Sep and were assured "The contractor will be re-instating all the markings that were in place prior to the resurfacing works, which will include the yellow lines"

    https://twitter.com/longstone_cc/status/1702724221669908649

    Posted 7 months ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    The response I got was “in the coming weeks” - this was a few weeks ago.

    https://twitter.com/sannedd/status/1702725611796517173

    Posted 7 months ago #
  18. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Is this still under an ETRO? Surely this long hiatus means the clock resets to 18 months, starting from whenever the contractor bothers his arse (suspect I’m not wrong on gender given events so far) to come back and reinstate the scheme ;)

    Sauce/goose/gander etc

    Posted 7 months ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    “Is this still under an ETRO?”

    Good question!

    Expect CEC has lost track…

    Posted 7 months ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    There are five wands now on the north side.

    Many parked cars in way of further installation,

    Posted 7 months ago #
  21. gembo
    Member

    Maybe fifty wands now all on the North Side of the road and interspersed with vehicles.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    Looked like tons more wands replaced again

    Posted 7 months ago #
  23. gembo
    Member

    Took the semi protected parking lane west last night

    TA Building at start of Lanark Road no bollards so parking in lane, slightly further wes one car in floating parking and then start of bollards, ran for first hill only. Then parking all the way to a Gillespies X Road. Heading back down the hill is worse as all bollards on first descent then suddenly no bollards and parking begins on the middle descent then on the last descent bollards again.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  24. Dave
    Member

    Ended my two month twitter holiday!

    https://twitter.com/david_mccraw/status/1707367341279838403

    Posted 7 months ago #
  25. gembo
    Member

    The video says it all

    Posted 7 months ago #
  26. gembo
    Member

    The people replacing bollards have left unbollarded spaces at bus stops but guess what? Yeah they are filled with parked cars

    Posted 7 months ago #
  27. ejstubbs
    Member

    The bus stops should be marked with the thick single yellow line which means "no parking or waiting here at any time" as here. (I think that means it's basically a 10m long stretch of clearway.

    From what I remember from the last time I traversed Lanark Road (Tuesday 26th*) the vast majority of the yellow lines (DYLs and bus stop stops) have yet to be replaced. I keep meaning to check whether the signage is still there, but keep forgetting. (I can't remember whether the lines aren't valid without signage, or vice versa. Or maybe it needs both for it to be enforceable?)

    I did note that they had started painting in some of the parking spaces. At least, they'd painted in half the quantity of parking spaces outside the Army place just up from the Inglis Green Road junction, which meant that half the cars were parked in the marked spaces - even though there still weren't any DYLs there - and the other half in the cycle lane <rolleyes>.

    On Sunday it will be ELEVEN WEEKS since Longstone Community Council Tweeted that the road markings would be reinstated "within the week". There is no way on <insert your choice of supreme spiritual being here>'s good green Earth that such a delay would have been allowed if the delay was inconveniencing motorists - there would have been fulminating articles in the EEN at the very least, a holy row breaking out on social media, and somehow the council would have found a way to re-prioritise other work and get it fixed. But apparently if it's "only cyclists" - who, let's not forget, are being put at physical risk by people parking in the cycle lanes - it doesn't matter. Grrr....

    * I was in the car that day, and my intention was to upload my dashcam footage of Lanark Road to show the still-unfinished state of the infrastructure. Weirdly, though, the dashcam didn't record that part of my journey, although the sections of the journey both before and after were present on the SD card. Spooky or what?

    Posted 7 months ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    Yes no yellow lines

    Posted 7 months ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    We will start resurfacing Lanark Road West between Bridge Road and Ravelrig Hill from Monday 15 January for four weeks. Diversions will be in place. This is part of our ongoing roads maintenance programme. Follow @edintravel for regular updates on roadworks.

    https://x.com/edinburgh_cc/status/1745471652530446480

    Posted 3 months ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    Spotted recumbent trike at this very Junction today. Two flags.

    A Jolly Roger and a red flag with blue and yellow cross not sure which nation that is..

    EDIT - Flag of Orkney

    At the same time as these roadworks, the other end of my commute is also going to be subject to severe delays from Monday 15th too.

    I will take the towpath and maybe WoL path to avoid. If I remember.

    Posted 3 months ago #

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