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  1. jss
    Member

    Wondering if there a new nasty non-COVID bug doing the rounds?
    Partner and self got it, now respective daughters
    A bit of a floorer - the usual crap. ,throat , cough ,tiredness ,headaches.seems difficult to shake off. Not COVID as we went for a test
    Anyone else been suffering with this recently?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. Greenroofer
    Member

    Yup :-). It's working its way through the Greenroofer household, and several lateral flow tests and a PCR test confirm that it's not Covid.

    I'm pretty sure I caught it from a trip to Bristol by plane, staying in a hotel. It rather suggests that much of the 'sanitation theatre' we went through on that trip was pointless.

    Those who know me well know my interest in tracking fitness-related physiological markers. Notable that my Heart Rate Variability went through the floor (down to the same level that it normally takes a 400km bike ride to achieve) a couple of days before I had any symptoms at all.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. jss
    Member

    Hope you all recover soon
    I did a 65 mile round trip to Innerleithen and back around Peel and Fountainhall a few days before and felt fine . This thing just abruptly hit me.Weird as my partner had had it for over a week without infecting me.She is still not right after two week with it
    It’s a damn pesky wee virus that must have seen its opportunity to sneak in under the radar while everyone’s attention was on covid
    I hope I have not passed it on to anyone as it is not a pleasant one.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. urchaidh
    Member

    Yeah, low grade lurgy here. Fevers, sore throats, general lack of beans. Worst bit has been the grounding while we waited for Covid test results. All been negative.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. nobrakes
    Member

    The new delta variant doesn’t always present with the standard symptoms. My wife has said a lot of the Covid positive people she’s seeing at the hospital, particularly the younger generation, are presenting with really bad headaches and sore backs. That’s what we had too when we got it last week. Kids thought they had migraines. The info we got from the test and trace folk seemed a bit out of date. Worth bearing in mind.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. jss
    Member

    Sorry to hear you got the delta one -you had the earlier version some moths ago if I remember correctly
    Would have thought it would have given you immunity?
    Wish the younger generation would take it more seriously instead of trooping into stores with face masks dangling around their necks like fashion statements .I have taken to telling them to put them on properly as store staff seem too scared too. Riding a recumbent in areas where youth congregate makes you rather immune to abuse. Anyway I would prefer an earful of abuse to a mouthful of virus!
    Bug we have had ,like all respiratory viruses ,does share many symptoms with reported COVID ones but not as severe .They are all unnecessary and unwelcome bastards

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. nobrakes
    Member

    Previously infected and recently double vaccinated. Still it gets through, albeit less severely.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. wingpig
    Member

    "...as store staff seem too scared to..."

    Increasing numbers of store staff without masks in my recent foodshops. Also Sainsbury's are still putting people with no sense of distance or propriety on their self-scan tills, whilst Tesco favours people who sing, reducing the ability of a mask to contain their exhaust gases.
    The local child-colleague-parent-geriatric-Covid-ward-nurse and norovirus-irresistability-advocate recently tested positive for Covid, despite both jabs and being off work for two weeks with a physical injury, also despite neither child testing positive, so presumably it snuck through a child asymptomatically.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    had a report yesterday of a barber shop in which none of the staff were masked and punters took theirs off after they entered :(

    Not my experience of more female-oriented hair cutting establishments.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    I have noticed an increase in the numbers of DILLIGAF no-mask customers in local shops. Almost exclusively white, male, working class, under 60 years of age. Quite a few with a macho swagger that seems to declare they'll confront anyone who challenges their maskless condition. On the few occasions I've boarded a bus or train in recent weeks, main culprits seem to be teenagers and young women, so a rather different offender profile. Still seems to give the air of an act of rebellion against "the man".

    I refuse to stand in a queue with these types, and keep well away from them if possible. They have either missed the point of masks (to help protect others) or they don't care. They may think the pandemic is over, Covid's "just the flu", that they're healthy or invulnerable. Let them test that by being in close proximity to others of their kind.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. Tulyar
    Member

    When when you go on to almost every engineering or building site the 'responsible entity' are well aware of their liability to criminal as well as civil prosecutions if harm is caused to persons on the premises through their failure to have rules and protocols as their defined Duty of Care to prevent or mitigate potential harm.

    A Section 3 proscution has unlimited fines and an option of custodial sentences for harm caused to a non-employee on premises, through a failure on delivering that Duty of Care by the responsible entity, tracking back to the CEO/Chair, and likewise a Section 2 if an employee is harmed

    Glasgow Council was fined £20,000, when a refuse truck driver reversed over a pedestrian and killed him, as the move was made without an attendant on foot in charge of ALL movements. 2 years later a Stirling Council driver did the same thing, although they were not prosecuted

    This is why signs like this are displayed on building sites

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/h52/51421984344

    We seem to have a fog/grey-zone when the premises are a school or a shop and the level of risk they carry.

    For a food factory, or electronics production the 'airlock' access and other features ensure that the inside space is very clean and mask wearing is routine. Shops might accept a lower, level of 'super cleanliness' and are not anywhere near as strict on the risk management measures.

    However if (through RNA matching, 'Patient 31' tracking & tracing etc) a premises can be identified, and their lax enforcement of mask wearing shown to be the route of infecting a wider group, could a prosecution succeed? If one does how might restaurants, shops, venues up their game? Would a USP be that they were 99% Blue Zone, virus clean, with a fast check (using spit ot a 'reduced' LFT (or RAT) where the swab is only taken from your nose, and all have their other 'passport' checks OK - ie recent LFT or PCR test SMS on phone, or similar

    Note that a large number who can't wear masks can wear visors, and many shops can deal with no mask shoppers, in the same as as several bikes shops have done since March 2020 - a Green Zone transfer - the customer stays back outside, purchase is brought to the door, payment made electronically, goods cleaned and shopkeeper retires, customer advances. Contactless cards can 'pay' through a glass window.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    Was served by a maskless till operator in LiDL yesterday. No idea if the person was exempt or not, kept my distance after noticing. Did not spot any customers without masks.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Tulyer: Note that a large number who can't wear masks can wear visors

    I am seeing what appears to be a bit of a resurgence in people wearing transparent visors rather than proper face coverings. IFAIK visors offer zero protection for others against the wearer's potentially contaminated exhalations, and I suspect not a great deal of protection for the wearer themselves (I believe I'm right in thinking that in a healthcare environment visors are an adjunct to a mask, rather than an alternative?)

    IMO visors are just about the worst kind of hygiene theatre. One youngish chap - not a spectacle wearer - was walking around Sainsburys with his visor heavily fogged up, which strikes me as being the worst of both worlds: ineffective and highly inconvenient.

    I tend to treat visor wearers in indoor spaces the same a non-mask wearers i.e. try to give them a wide berth.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. crowriver
    Member

    Both my kids are off school with bad colds. Both tested negative for Covid. Other viruses doing the rounds it seems.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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