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  1. neddie
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    Ha ha. A mostly pointless, elitist, climate destroying activity, with high barriers to entry

    Now starting to be seen as heading into “unjustifiability”

    Hmm, yeah

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. gembo
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    Apparently you could take the train from Paris to Bourg Saint Maurice and get off it with your skis on and take a ski lift from the station to the top of the mountain and porters would take luggage to your hotel for you.

    Aside from that, what is the carbon footprint of flying from out with the EU to say the alps?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. chdot
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  4. ejstubbs
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    @gembo: Apparently you could take the train from Paris to Bourg Saint Maurice and get off it with your skis on and take a ski lift from the station to the top of the mountain and porters would take luggage to your hotel for you.

    Not sure about getting off the train "with your skis on": apart from the physical difficulty of doing so, the station is at ~800m and in the centre of the town so unlikely to have much snow cover even in the best winters. I did once take the Snow Train from Calais to Bourg in the dim and distant past (in the years before the Channel Tunnel opened, so it was train or car to Dover and then a ferry). That was something of an experience in itself, with its seatless buffet car "party coach" that was basically hosed down at each end of the run...nice. You used to be able to take a Eurostar from St Pancras to Bourg, though I believe it was suspended during the pandemic and I'm not sure whether it's been reinstated (UPDATE: it has).

    There is indeed a funicular railway within a straightforward ~10 minute walk of the railway station which runs up to Arcs 1600; no doubt perfectly feasible wearing ski boots and carrying your skis. It was originally a cable car/gondola lift that was replaced by the funicular in the mid-1980s.

    As for having porters taking your luggage to the hotel, well, maybe if you're staying at the Club Méditerranée, but the majority of the accommodation in Les Arcs is apartments so unless you're on a 'chalet style' deal i.e. a catered apartment you'll probably have to lug your stuff onto and off the funicular yourself. That said, there may well be services provided at the top of the funi for transporting people and their chattels to other parts of the ski area - a bit like the electric taxis in Zermatt that will pick you up at the station and take you to your accommodation.

    In fact Zermatt is probably another major ski resort with 'low-carbon' access from the UK, though the train journey is by no means as straightforward as it is for Les Arcs. According to The Man in Seat 61, from the Eurostar you have to take the Metro across Paris to the Gare de Lyon, then change again in Lausanne, and again at Visp. It's roughly 12 hours end-to-end - and don't forget to add 5+ hours for Edinburghers to get to St Pancras and check in to the Eurostar. (One might wonder whether things would be different now if Regional Eurostar hadn't been left by the wayside during the BR privatisation process. It's interesting to read some of the comments in the relevant part of that Wiki article and compare them with some of the things which are being said now about HS2, or more specifically about the ongoing creeping cutbacks to the scope of the northern extremities of that project.)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. chdot
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    ELECTRIC heat pumps could cut household energy bills by hundreds of pounds and reduce homes’ carbon emissions by 90 per cent – but minsters are set to fall short of a key renewable heating target, new analysis has revealed.

    The Scottish Government has pledged that one million homes will have low carbon heating systems installed by 2030.

    But modelling for the new study has found that the SNP-Greens government is set to “miss our crucial 2030 climate target”, adding that “annual emissions from homes in 2030 could be over double the government’s ambitions”.

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23332490.heat-pumps-will-cut-energy-bills-amid-fears-climate-target/

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. chdot
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    I will not support an accelerated net zero path which sees us turn off the North Sea taps, throw 10s of 1000s of oil workers out of jobs, hollow out NE & H&I communities whist still using and importing hydrocarbons. I will stand up for our oil workers and their communities.

    https://twitter.com/ashtenregan/status/1627653377046839301

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. neddie
    Member

    Lost my vote already

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. Yodhrin
    Member

    Well she needs a wedge issue now that she's been outflanked as the candidate for "people concerned about LGBT overreach and women's rights"(as an ex-gaming buddy once euphemistically phrased his views), Burn It All Down/what's all this climate change nonsense anyway? seems to be the chosen path.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. chdot
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    Two former Prime Ministers write a report.

    Climate Tech

    The transition to a low-carbon economy is like a mountain-climbing expedition: most want to get to the peak, but the argument is about the best way to summit. Some say it needs to be a straight shoot, even if there are strong blizzards. Others believe a slower but safer route is most feasible; such a practical path would not only seem to protect a way of life but also try to improve standards of living.

    https://institute.global/policy/new-national-purpose-innovation-can-power-future-britain

    Everyone in Britain should be given a digital ID incorporating their passport, driving licence, tax records, qualifications and right to work as the cornerstone of a “technology revolution”, Sir Tony Blair and Lord Hague of Richmond say

    https://mobile.twitter.com/thetimes/status/1628288807190626305

    That might give the conspiracy theorists something to do instead of ‘caring’ about LTNs and 20min towns…

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. chdot
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  11. acsimpson
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    I've not read the article but based on that clip I assume they are suggesting that waiting out the blizzard is their suggestion. There seems to be a too many parliamentarians who want to descend the mountain until conditions change.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

    For decades, energy prices have been relatively constant but the ability to generate this resource at lower costs, and use it much more efficiently, would unlock many secondary benefits, including dropping the cost of transport and energy-intensive manufacturing dramatically while lifting millions out of energy poverty.

    Aye, if these two clowns think we're going to have any kind of liveable future in their technological "utopia", we're all doomed...

    Jevons paradox - the more efficiently we create something, the more it will be consumed... and eventual destruction of the human race and all the beautiful and marvellous species on this planet...

    So sad to see people deluded in this way.

    Meanwhile, the climate scientists are screaming at us to act...

    Stop consuming everything, people! It's the only way

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. chdot
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    Under the current RICS assessment methodology demolition has little impact; it just counts stuff like the fuel for the cranes and the TNT strapped to the building. Such evaluation misses the impact of the waste and spend cycle – it sees no difference between useful carbon, that makes a nice home, and that wasted in a landfill site.

    We need to get smarter. Our overlapping crises are about resource depletion and waste, as well as carbon and climate. We are talking to those leading the resistance to the downing of the ITV Building on the Thames and the M&S Building on Oxford Street, who are authoring the new RICS methodologies, which are due this summer. The Mayor of London now has a framework requiring a Whole Life Carbon Assessment over 60 years. For demolition it requires the assessment be done with 95 per cent recycling, which will assist cases like ours. We need to spread such thinking around and lobby for such assessments to be mandatory for large developments.

    https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/high-rise-demolition-that-turns-glasgows-cop26-on-its-head?tkn=1

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. chdot
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    The “missions” cover five broad themes: the economy, the NHS, crime, the climate crisis and education. They will be long-term objectives, rather than consumer pledges, but will be “measurable” so voters can check against performance.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/23/five-national-missions-to-form-core-of-labour-manifesto-keir-starmer

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. chdot
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    Coffey made her comments after being called to the Commons to answer an urgent question about supermarket rationing of salad ingredients, owing to shortages caused by bad weather in Spain and north Africa. She had been trying to make a point about eating seasonally.

    “I’m conscious that consumers want a year-round choice and that is what our supermarkets, food producers and growers around the world try to satisfy,” she added.

    Was a bounty of this unloved root vegetable part of the promised Brexit dividend? people asked, as they shared doctored images of campaign buses emblazoned with “forget tomatoes, let’s eat turnips instead”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/23/food-shortages-environment-secretary-urges-britons-cherish-turnips

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. neddie
    Member

    "Turnip" that is actually a Swede == delicious.

    Turnip, a smaller purple thing == completely inedible, even pigs won't touch them!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  17. chdot
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    The Scottish government has set a legally-binding target to cut greenhouse gas emissions to net zero by 2045, five years ahead of the date set for the UK as a whole.

    But Ms Regan said those targets were "not appropriate".

    She added: "I am committed to a just transition, I want to be really clear about that, but I think we need to recognise how many people in Scotland, how many communities, are supported by the people who work in the oil and gas industry.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-64757594.amp

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. nobrakes
    Member

    “ Regan said she would also accelerate Scotland’s road-widening programme and slow down the move away from North Sea oil and gas extraction”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/24/scottish-independence-ash-regan-campaign-launch-snp-first-minister?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Ah well.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. neddie
    Member

    Good God! She’s basically a climate denier

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. acsimpson
    Member

    Turnips can be pretty enjoyable too. I grew some a number of years ago. Some bolted and were inedible but we had a meals worth of sweet little roots.

    Does Ash also plan to reinvigorate area of low employment by reopening coal mines?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  21. chdot
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    KATE Forbes has suggested she would curb action to accelerate Scotland’s transition away from oil and gas and has warned the SNP against winding down the North Sea industry “too quickly”.

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23346814.kate-forbes-curb-strategy-accelerate-oil-gas-decline/

    Posted 1 year ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    Leaving Hamza as our only hope.

    I wonder if he dropped the lawsuit against the nursery in Dundee as he knew what was coming up…..

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. Yodhrin
    Member

    Honestly starting to reappraise my previously generally positive view of Sturgeon - okay it was a tough job and maybe she just had enough, but you put a plan in place before you walk out the door. She may well have just thrown away her whole policy legacy, and the rest of us under the bus.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  24. chdot
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  25. chdot
    Admin

    The UK will need to embrace innovative, community-based solutions to environmental and energy problems if it is to have any hope of meeting looming net-zero deadlines, a cross-party group of MPs and peers has recommended.

    A report by the all-party group on a green new deal argues for a combination of robust, top-down policies on green issues including localised power generation, food and transport schemes. Recommendations include a mortgage penalty for landlords who let energy-inefficient homes, and also real community decision-making, notably on power schemes.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/feb/27/local-solutions-uk-net-zero-targets-mps-peers-urge

    Posted 1 year ago #
  26. chdot
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  27. neddie
    Member

    What hope do we have of preventing climate breakdown if ScotGov can’t even get a 20p bottle deposit scheme over the line?

    It’s exactly this consumer culture of selling unnecessary, health-damaging, junk wrapped in plastic that’s killing everyone and every species on this magnificent planet

    Posted 1 year ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    Will cause Carnage

    Posted 1 year ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    The winner of the Inspiring Locally Elected Leader award is @adamrmcvey for his work to ensure that Edinburgh takes bold action to address the climate crisis, including devising a climate strategy outlining how Edinburgh can become a net zero city by 2030 #GreenHeartHeroAwards

    https://mobile.twitter.com/theccoalition/status/1630302685038538754

    Posted 1 year ago #
  30. chdot
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    Scientists pour cold water on UK aviation’s net zero ambitions

    Country would need to devote half its farmland or more than double its renewable electricity supply, says study

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/28/scientists-uk-aviation-net-zero-ambitions-half-farmland-double-renewable-electricity

    Posted 1 year ago #

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