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Getting To Ratho Climbing (and surf) Centre With A Cargo Bike

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  • Started 2 years ago by abeardwalks
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  1. chdot
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  2. gembo
    Member

    Will a surf board fit in a cargo bike?

    This is actually happening?

    Unlike Lannraig the 21st Century Resort near Carnwath where one sign has fallen down. Still just houses in middle of nowhere.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    “The active, blasting quarry is situated in an area designated countryside by Edinburgh Council and at the centre of a “Recreational Triangle” that includes Jupiter Artland, the Edinburgh International Climbing Arena, and the soon to be completed Lost Shore Surf Resort.”

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/plans-to-expand-bonnington-quarry-spark-anger-as-residents-fear-harm-to-health-and-homes-4424435

    Posted 12 months ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    “At a time when public swimming pools in Edinburgh are threatened with closure due to the underfunding of local government, a publicly owned bank is dishing out tax payers money to a private developer to open a surf centre.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sir-david-murray-benefiting-388m-32096961

    Posted 9 months ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Great day at the Edinburgh International Climbing Arena but why on earth is there no bus stop outside Europe's largest climbing centre, with the final stop on the number 20 a full 15 minute walk through a building site to the edge of Ratho?

    https://twitter.com/CyclingEdin/status/1769315993820500367

    Posted 8 months ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    The proposed bridge, together with a new path, was hailed as a “much-needed active travel link” when the plans first emerged in 2019. But although a design has now been completed, the access ramp is too steep to qualify for funding from active travel charity Sustrans.

    And the city council faced having to pay Scottish Canals to lease the air above the canal, costing at least £821,000 over a 50-year term. It was also unclear who would have legal responsibility for maintenance of the new bridge

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/new-bridge-linking-edinburgh-international-climbing-arena-and-surf-resort-set-to-be-abandoned-4733588?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  7. Dave
    Member

    They could still build the access to the towpath without a bridge, if they are going to value engineer anything.

    It feels weird that Sustrans will fund cosmetic upgrades in the city centre but not level access to the canal because it's not quite level enough.

    We've been driving the kids to Ratho for holiday club. It's only a 30 minute cycle but I can't sell either leaving the bike locked to itself on the towpath or venturing on some gravel expedition.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  8. neddie
    Member

    And so they've managed to create two car-based developments with one stone.

    They're just not taking this climate "emergency" seriously, are they?

    What is wrong with people? Don't they see what's coming?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  9. Dave
    Member

    It's just ("just") an incentives problem. I don't think there can be many politicians who actively don't believe science so much as they just have a strong incentive not to act. Look at, for example, taking all the space on Morrison St that could have been segregated cycle routes between CCWEL and the big offices. All so that vehicles which don't comply with LEZ (10+ year old vehicles) get a shortcut.

    You could well ask, ok, why does Scott Arthur not act as if he believes in the science. But it's sadly futile.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  10. neddie
    Member

    £821,000 over 50 years is £16,420 per annum. (And far less than that in real terms, e.g. £16k in 20 years time will be worth around £8k in today's money.)

    Hardly a significant outlay to the council. Perhaps they are just abandonning on "principle" of not paying Scottish Canals? Although principles like that don't seem to apply when it comes to motoring, or other matters... double standards

    Posted 3 months ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    To be fair…

    This is what SA thinks -

    This is the worst possible outcome.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/new-bridge-linking-edinburgh-international-climbing-arena-and-surf-resort-set-to-be-abandoned-4733588.

    https://x.com/drscottarthurmp/status/1821544823397941655

    No idea what he will do…

    Posted 3 months ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

    If they won't build a footbridge, that only leaves one option - appropriate as much of the existing road bridge as needed for footway/cycleway and connect up the pavement either side of it to the Wave Garden and Climbing Arena

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/4wnhrSTMUx7a9mnUA

    With potential for an adequately graded path down to the towpath here:

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/1ZCTmzuaugmSLfcJ9

    Posted 3 months ago #
  13. Morningsider
    Member

    ...the access ramp is too steep to qualify for funding from active travel charity Sustrans.
    It is taxpayer money, distributed via Sustrans. If Sustrans are the problem then there are other routes to get the cash to the Council. Also, after donkeys years of building absolute #### Sustrans now choose to get sniffy!

    ...the city council faced having to pay Scottish Canals to lease the air above the canal, costing at least £821,000 over a 50-year term.
    Scottish Canals are owned by Scottish Ministers. Is it right that their demand for cash is preventing a development which supports Scottish Government policy? Especially as the cash is from another public body? It makes no sense.

    It was also unclear who would have legal responsibility for maintenance of the new bridge
    Then clarify it! It's either the Council or Scottish Canals, or the Council and Scottish Canals. Seems relatively straightforward.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  14. SF
    Member

    There was a path on the 'other' side of the canal which came out just south of the canal bridge at the EICA. I used it on occasion but I believe the access to it from a path down the side of Hallcroft Park has been blocked by the building work. It dropped very steeply to the canal side before climbing back up to the EICA access road. Shame they couldn't have done something with that. You can just see the path above the stored containers in this screenshot.
    Screenshot_20240812_082925_Outdooractive by BTP, on Flickr

    Posted 3 months ago #
  15. chdot
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  16. chdot
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  17. neddie
    Member

    Is this so you can "live the dream" by driving there, getting fat, and pretending you're a fit young sea-bleached-blond Californian, but without ever suffering the indignity of getting wet?

    Posted 2 months ago #

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