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“Sometimes it’s necessary to remember the scale of the problem…“
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Councillors to choose new layout for Greenbank to Meadows Quiet Connection
Transport Convener Cllr Scott Arthur said he feels it is now time to move on from the Spaces for People discussion relating to the Greenbank to Meadows Quiet Connection by adopting a permanent solution.
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@chdot, why do you post to articles like this. Clicking them just provides oxygen to their hate.
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I posted a quote and a link, because that’s the source.
No requirement/incitement to click.
That's what archive.ph is for, really. Here is the DM article in question, which was archived five months ago anyway:
Not that it's pleasant reading, being designed to cater to frothing drivists. I didn't bother reading the whole thing because it started to annoy/infuriate me and my MH doesn't need that [rule 2].
Assumed in London. I would never click on a daily Mail link even if posted by Illustrious Leade
If the idiots in the comment section are annoyed, then it's usually a good thing to the less hard of thinking.
This has a model to draw on which may help to plan your ways to deal with it
It is much paralleled by the behaviour of a small child being deprived of an essential toy or treat, and I'm sure many parents will know how to deal with this
Meanwhile I have a bad side to me of always being tempted to 'Poke the Snake' (from a place of safety of course)
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What is the strategy for transport?
Author: Professor David Begg
21 MAR 2024
I have been on a sabbatical for a few years and have been catching up on transport policy from a fresh perspective. I have been shocked by the vacuum when it comes to strategy. What exactly is it that the Government are trying to achieve?
The "war on the motorist" has been weaponised by a desperate Government facing oblivion in the polls in the same way as identity politics and Islamophobia have been aimed at whipping up fear and hatred. We can surely do better than this.
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https://www.transporttimes.co.uk/news.php/What-is-the-strategy-for-transport-715
(Not Scotland)
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Is Plan for Drivers declaring war on pedestrians and cyclists?
The Government’s Plan for Drivers seems to ignore all of the beneficial outcomes of lower speed limits and fails to recognise that drivers have lives outside their cars, writes Rod King of 20's Plenty
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Reducing the speed limit from 30mph to 20mph should increase road capacity, reducing the chances of "gridlock", as the required headway between cars is lower at 20 than 30.
"Gridlock": attributed to Sam Schwartz, who was then the chief traffic engineer for the New York City Department of Transportation at the time of the 1980 New York City transit strike. Schwartz said the word gridlock was used internally in his department during the 1970s, perhaps as early as 1971.Writing up a memo of emergency recommendations for senior officials, he recalled the words of a colleague several years earlier who had been analyzing a proposal to close Broadway to vehicular traffic. His colleague gave the plan the thumbs-down, worrying that it would simply "lock up the grid". Schwartz was always struck by that image and titled his 1980 memo "Gridlock Prevention Plan".
It's invariably caused by drivers choosing to game the system by maximising their own benefit of shorter travel time at the expense of others, otherwise junction exit blocking and the ensuing 'traffic chaos' ought never to occur.
Taken to extremes, a car park is a piece of tarmac that is designed for and used at its maximum capacity. Thus vehicles moving vanishingly close to zero miles per hour would bring maximum capacity to a road. I don't have a lot of faith in anything the Express writes.
Oh FFS
Admin edit to add https://archive.ph/p5rO7
‘Speed cameras at 24 sites across Edinburgh and the Lothians are to be turned off, due to “improved driver behaviour”.’
That’s the point, I thought
Feel free to add archive version
cameras at 119 sites nationwide will become inactive, as they no longer meet the criteria for enforcement.
Are the criteria for enforcement not something about 85th percentile speeds?
Why can't we have speed cameras as a deterrent?
Meanwhile, everyone else is saying that driver behaviour has got worse - especially with regard to respecting 20mph limits
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Speed cameras at 24 sites across Edinburgh and the Lothians are to be turned off, due to “improved driver behaviour”.
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The review, in collaboration with 33 road authorities across Scotland, found that camera enforcement and engagement had led to improvements in driver behaviour and speed limit compliance over the past five years.
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So, good reason to keep them?
Couldn’t be anything to do with money??
Was/is it not the case that there were more boxes than cameras and the cameras were moved around?
All the more reason to keep them and repaint them every few years?!
Does no one else throw away their umbrella when their hair is no longer getting wet?
There might be a war on funding for active travel:
Due to changes in government spending priorities, the Love to Ride Edinburgh programme has had its funding cut. Previously, thanks to government funding, workplaces have been able to take part for free. The funding has now ended as of April 2024.
LTR has become a fixture but I'm also not sure how much change it's delivering for the new-to-cycling and would-like-to-cycle-but demographics.
ah, i did wonder why all 4 cameras on the A68 to Jedburgh had "not in use bags" over them last weekend. Makes total sense, as no one ever speeds on that road. No one.
Sat nav telling drivers speed camera imminent causes braking
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New: The War on Britain's.... ...Motorists: Dispatches: From potholes to Low Traffic Neighbourhoods and electric car confusion, car journalist Ginny Buckley asks: is this the worst time ever to be a motorist in the UK? [Also in HD]
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Having past my driving test in 1987 I would say that it is the worst time to be a motorist. Lack of road maintenance is a biggy (affects me worse on my bike though) but the biggest drawback for me is there are so many vehicles on the road now.
I hardly ever drive in the city if I can help it as it takes too long to get anywhere and it is a stress I can do without. Unfortunately there are loads of stupid people that can't understand we have reached gridlock in most cities with cars and alternative transport solutions have to be found.
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MSPs have called on the Scottish Government to stop their 'war on motorists' through 'reckless disregard' and intervene to prevent a boundary charge being introduced to non-Glasgow city council residents.
A heated debate unfolded in the Scottish Parliament today over proposals from the Glasgow City Council to explore an at-city boundary congestion charge and potential tolls for the Clyde Tunnel.
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“The project,” Maxwell says, “should also be accompanied by complementary measures to further encourage use of public transport and active travel, such as bus gates, traffic filters and congestion charging. Research is clear that a combination of carrot and stick is the optimal approach to traffic reduction.”
What that means, to me anyway, is a ramping up of what's sometimes called the war against cars.
For Spokes, tram introduction should be about creating “an integrated sustainable transport place-making project”.
“It shouldn’t be a tram-only project into which cycling and walking have to be slotted in once all the tramline decisions are taken, as happened with tramline 1 and to a considerable (though lesser) extent in the Newhaven extension.”
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Yes the war on the motorist is real
But I think we are seeing a war on the cyclist now
As per the Community Council meeting where there is mood to "get cyclists off the canal" hence all the links they are trying to forge through to Fountainbridge
Got me to thinking:
First they came for the motorist but I did not speak out, for I am not a motorist
Then they came for the cyclist... etc
Feel sorry when they finally come for pedestrians
Interesting thoughts
One ‘irony’ is that this ‘war on cyclists’ might be coming from pedestrians.
Some pedestrian and disability orgs seem keen to have a go at ‘cyclists’ when the truth is everyone suffers from a propoganda/policy climate where the biggest problem is minimised by well funded ‘supporters’/industry interests proclaiming (loudly) that ‘motorists’ are persecuted/waged war on…
If only everyone could get along nicely.
Blah blah blah
Sort of tried before -
Are there any new pro-pedestrian-but-also-specifically-anti-cycling groups whose emergence I might have missed? BlueSky's still not quite up to the same level of cross-exposure that Twitter used to have and I'm trying to avoid robot-infested indignancy swamps like Facebook...
@wingpig not really with the same dogged vehemence as the Living Street Chap in Edinburgh has. He hates a floating bus stop etc
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And he argues that this is as relevant now as it ever was: that small groups of committed citizens can still change the world.
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If there is a 'war' on 'the motorist'*, it sure isn't going very well.
https://spice-spotlight.scot/2025/08/26/driving-down-driving-3/
* for which read car drivers; I'm not seeing much of a war on motorbike riders for instance.
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