CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Stuff

Operation London Bridge now Operation Unicorn

(135 posts)
  • Started 3 months ago by Morningsider
  • Latest reply from chdot

Tags:


  1. Morningsider
    Member

    Looks like Operation London Bridge has been, or is about to be, invoked. BBC has suspended normal programming and apparently Parliamentary statements due.

    Clearly at the end of the second Elizabethan age.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  2. SRD
    Moderator

    I knew it was serious when they said Huw Edwards had on a black tie

    Posted 3 months ago #
  3. SRD
    Moderator

    should we rename the thread?

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/21224640.operation-unicorn-happens-queen-dies-scotland/

    What is Operation Unicorn?
    Operation Unicorn will see the immediate suspension of business at the Scottish Parliament so that authorities can prepare for a state funeral.

    Political business would be suspended and the funeral would likely take place around ten days after her death.

    It is believed that if the Queen was to die in Scotland, then people from all over the globe could travel to the country.

    It is thought that St Giles’ Cathedral and Holyroodhouse in Edinburgh would be focal points for both journalists and the public.

    READ MORE: BBC One suspends regular programming until 6pm amid worry over Queen's health

    It will also mean that her body could be laid to rest at Holyroodhouse, with the coffin then carried to the cathedral on the Royal Mile.

    The Queen’s body would then be placed on the Royal Train at Waverley station and journey back to London.

    There are believed to be around three meetings every year involving members of the government, police and broadcasters to strategise the event of the Queen’s death.

    What is Operation London Bridge?

    Operation London Bridge is the primary plan for when the Queen dies with Operation Unicorn specific to if she dies in Scotland.

    On the day of the monarch’s death, ministers will receive a call and an email reading: "Dear colleagues, it is with sadness that I write to inform you of the death of Her Majesty The Queen.”

    Posted 3 months ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    “should we rename the thread?“

    Not yet.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  5. SRD
    Moderator

    well, that's that.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

  7. Yodhrin
    Member

    I feel for her family I really do, but jeezo I'm not looking forward to the next couple of weeks of relentless flag-shaggery.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  8. amir
    Member

    Parliaments being suspended must be awkward timing during a real crisis, and for democracy given a new Prime Minister

    Posted 3 months ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    Is he Charles III in Scotland?

    Seems like he should be? But say someone saying he was Charles II?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Should get a day off work tho

    Posted 3 months ago #
  11. Frenchy
    Member

    Is he Charles III in Scotland?

    Being monarch, he gets to decide to be called whatever he wants.

    Apparently convention is now that they choose the higher of the two possible numbers, so we get Elizabeth II, Charles III and,for example, a hypothetical future Robert IV of the UK.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  12. Yodhrin
    Member

    @amir Truss will probably be breathing a sigh of relief tbh, she'll be able to milk "Our gracious QUEEN has just PASSED BEYOND, you insensitive monster!" as a shield against lots of criticism for at least a few weeks, and Tories usually get a little poll bump during festivals of mindless traditionalism even nominally sad ones. All they have to do is milk it without looking too much like that's what they're doing, though I admit that might be challenging for Prime Minister Porkmarkets, Cruella Braverman, and the Honourable Member for the 18th Century all in government.

    Then again I'm a cynical git.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  13. edinburgh87
    Member

    A sad day. However I suspect CCHQ can't believe their luck at the moment. Will all but bury any scrutiny in the media of the energy "freeze" (aka handing £100bn of public money to already profitable energy companies).

    Posted 3 months ago #
  14. LaidBack
    Member

    The end of the second Elizabethan age. 1000 years of history blah blah.
    Except... Elizabeth the first of England executed Mary Queen of Scots pre-union. Her son James was the first joint monarch of England and Scotland in 1603. (VI of Scotland and James I of England).
    History is important and the union of crowns does pre-date the UK of course. 419 years of shared monarchy with Elizabeth being the first queen of that name in Scotland.

    Watched SABC online from South Africa as our daughter is there. Colonial legacy of course was their main angle. One story covered by them was that the Queen was anti apartheid and disagreed with the 'racist' Thatcher. Because of this Mandela greeted her simply as 'Elizabeth' - ignoring protocol.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    “Will all but bury any scrutiny in the media“

    Will be interesting to see what changes ‘after a period of national mourning’.

    ‘Debate’ will continue on Twitter. Even yesterday people were proclaiming that the Queen’s death meant ‘the end of Indy hopes’ while others suggested the opposite!

    An old woman has died.

    Whatever you think of “monarchy” she was a remarkable woman.

    ‘Will Charles be the same/as good?’ No/unlikely. Does it matter?

    A remarkable week really in the history of UK politics and governance.

    A terrible Prime Minister (even if you think he is ‘fun’, he was completely unfit for the job he craved) replaced by someone, realistically, unelected.

    Easy to imagine that the Queen was determined to stay alive to see it happen!

    By contrast she was in a job that she probably hadn’t really considered or at least expected to get when she was so young.

    That is now being taken on by someone who has been expecting it for a long time.

    How he does it remains to be seen. Whether that matters, remains to be seen…

    Meanwhile nothing is ‘normal’. ‘The nation is subjected to endless prattle about a national treasure (don’t think she got labelled like that, unlike other entertainers), ‘legacy’ etc or bland music across most channels. Is this going on for 10 days??

    Energy Crisis, Cost of Living Crisis, Climate Crisis will all continue with little chance of any improvements/resolutions.

    Will those involved go into suspension or take advantage of the extra lack of scrutiny?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. stiltskin
    Member

    I wonder which set of supporters was doing the shouting?
    In other news Carrington Road/Fettes Avenue closed off presumuably for police activity due funeral.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  18. SRD
    Moderator

    I was wondering what that was about. I guess they will borrow forces (and vehicles) from other forces and need somewhere to park them?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    Well there have been vast amounts of vehicles there for previous events, including COP, but don’t remember roads being closed.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  20. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @stiltskin it was a few Hearts fans shouting anti-Queen stuff then a reaction to it from other Hearts fans. As far as I know, the away fans were fine throughout.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  21. gembo
    Member

    What saddens me for the Queen is she has never eaten a loaf made by the Collingswood method. So she has never tasted a heel of a plain loaf toasted. how sad.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    28m ago
    10.50
    Queen's death could leave Commons suspended until mid-October - report
    Good morning and welcome to the UK politics live blog. As the nation comes to terms with the death of the Queen, we will be taking a look at how the end of her reign will affect the political landscape.

    Yesterday Liz Truss set out plans to freeze energy bills at an average of £2,500 a year for two years, as part of a package of support for homes and businesses that marks one of the biggest government interventions since the financial crisis.

    In her first big act as prime minister, Truss said the government would fund the scheme to reduce the unit cost of energy through increased borrowing.

    The initiative is forecast to involve the transfer of £150bn in taxpayer funds to energy suppliers to make up the difference between what they pay for power in the wholesale markets, and the capped consumer price.

    Whitehall sources said official estimates would not come until a fiscal statement – essentially an emergency budget - from the new chancellor, Kwasi Kwarteng. That was expected to come on 19 September but, following the Queen’s death, parliament is now due to be suspended for 10 days.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/sep/09/uk-politics-live-uncertainty-liz-truss-energy-bills-freeze-after-suspension-of-parliamentary-business-latest-updates?page=with:block-631b06ec8f0804237ace5a1a#block-631b06ec8f0804237ace5a1a

    Posted 3 months ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    I know the body/coffin is coming to Edinburgh, but any royalty/dignitaries?

    If not, are they expecting mass crowds??

    Posted 3 months ago #
  24. LaidBack
    Member

    George IV Bridge was closed and absolutely no vehicles on Lawnmarket apart from council one putting up railings.
    We're taking train north today. Delayed from yesterday.
    Good time to be clear of city centre - even though nice to see they can rapidly deploy resources to close off to private cars!
    As far as bus routes are concerned no idea where they are going and for how long.
    Meant to be a fired salute at 12 noon I think?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    Open to peds/bikes?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  26. LaidBack
    Member

    There was a cargo trike parked at the French Institute but saw no-one cycling. Traffic coming up Market St routed back down Mound.

    (My comment about second Elizabethan age was not a dig at @morningsider btw. Media here like the continous monarchy narrative with 1066 being year zero, forgetting Charles Stuart and all that stuff)

    Posted 3 months ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    Court mourning – Charles will decide on the length of court or royal mourning for members of the royal family and royal households. It is expected to last a month. –

    National mourning – The Government will confirm the length of national mourning, which is likely to be around 12 days, from now up to the day after the Queen’s funeral.

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/21250312.queens-death-happens-next-day-day-schedule/

    Something else for UKGov to blame for the recession.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  28. ejstubbs
    Member

    @LaidBack: "As far as bus routes are concerned no idea where they are going and for how long."

    Early today LB's web site was announcing route diversions due to closures on Royal Mile/Chambers Street/George IV Bridge/The Mound "until further notice". The details of the diversions are available: https://www.lothianbuses.com/live-travel-info/service-alerts/

    Posted 3 months ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    Bill Farnsworth, general manager of Musselburgh Racecourse, said: “While protocols permit racing to resume on Sunday it would be inappropriate for us to stage our meeting as the Queen’s body rests in nearby St Giles’ Cathedral and as a mark of respect the decision was taken to abandon.”

    The plan for what happens next when the Queen dies, called ‘Operation Unicorn’ when she passes in Scotland, is set out for nine days following the monarch’s death and includes the option to postpone sports fixtures.

    Sports event organisers were told this morning that they were under no obligation to do so. Official guidance does, however, does recommend that sports bodies consider cancelling events on the day of the state funeral, likely to be a week on Monday.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/scottish-football-and-professional-uk-sport-shuts-down-as-mark-of-respect-for-the-queen-3837272

    Posted 3 months ago #
  30. SRD
    Moderator

    seeing reports of newsagents in London having sold out of papers.

    am told bruntsfield news agents still have lots.

    curious to know what others have observed?

    Posted 3 months ago #

RSS feed for this topic

Reply »

You must log in to post.


Video embedded using Easy Video Embed plugin