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EELO bikes, anyone?

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  • Started 10 months ago by the canuck
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  1. the canuck
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    I'm thinking about a folding e-bike for the work commute, between north and south E'burgh. I have an issue with my aductor tendon, and Dublin Street really aggravates it, which is why I'm looking at an electric.

    EELO, folding electric bike, is offering a discount via our workplace.
    Anyone used one, or know someone who does? I can't afford a Brompton.

    I'm 167cm tall, slim, I'm not trying to break landspeed records. I'd need to carry a laptop and satchel.
    I'd still use my normal bike for the local trips I do, because they're flattish and the bike carries more.

    Other question, I've heard that secondhand e-bikes are not a reliable purchase. Is this true? I generally prefer to buy stuff secondhand rather than new, if possible.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    I saw someone on one of these the other day.

    Deal for £999 on their website.

    Good price for a folding e bike

    Wheels look very small.?

    As with any e bike the battery is your main focus. How reliable is it? How many recharges before it dies? This one is integrated by the looks but presume you can get replacements

    A second hand e bike with a new battery is fine, a second hand battery not good.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  3. the canuck
    Member

    That was my thought, get the bike secondhand and replace the battery.
    THese are supposed to get 40 miles to the charge, in theory I might squeeze out more because I'm smaller and wouldn't be using it for the full ride. But full life/replacement cost is a good thing to be looking up, thank you.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    They are offering a one year manufacturers unlimited mileage warranty and right down at the bottom a two year warranty on electrics parts (including battery).

    Also a 400 pounds up front then six months at 100 pounds interest free deal.

    However, with this cost for what is a bike with a limited but understandable function (getting you up Dublin Street) I would want to know someone who uses one and be assured it is worth it,

    Do you have other options? E.g. , getting off and pushing up Dublin Street or in fact taking a different route which gains the height but more gradually

    Posted 10 months ago #
  5. ejstubbs
    Member

    The fact that it has a throttle would suggest to me that it's not road legal, despite what it says on their web site:

    "ELECTRIC/THROTTLE ONLY RANGE: 8-10 Miles average (Kick start so road legal)"

    The bit on the DfT/DVSA web page about "twist and go" power assistance (which is what the EELO appears to offer) is far from clear. I couldn't find anything about it in a brief scan of the EU regulation linked in footnote 4 of said web page.

    Given the recent hoo-ha about police response to users of non-road-legal e-bikes, and the seemingly uncontrolled proliferation of e-scooters outside of the trial areas, I think it's way past time that something was done to facilitate the general public's understanding of the law in regard to EAPCs and the like.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  6. cb
    Member

    Personally, I think something like this looks better for an entry level folding bike:

    20 Inch Electric FOLDING BIKE btwin 500E

    Battery is smaller, but if it's enough for a day's commute it's enough. Think this one would be a much more pleasant ride with a flat battery to be honest and probably infitely better tyre choices.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  7. LaidBack
    Member

    @the canuk - can get you a Bosch Tern with only 50km on clock. Uses proven 500Wh battery and Bosch Performance motor. In Roslin. Can put you in touch and make guy an offer. He was at BW wondering if anyone interested. All above board with receipt from dealer in Gleneagles. Email or pm. Twice as much assist as BTwin which is ok on budget.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  8. the canuck
    Member

    thanks for feedback!

    pushing bike up hill is not a preferred option, as it still aggravates the injury, which leads to referred pain in the lower back. Alternative routes to the south either add another mile or just move the hill elsewhere. Dublin is steep but short.

    I'll have a think about these over the weekend--currently digesting a lot of wine.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  9. the canuck
    Member

    So in the end I did go for the EELO, which was on sale for a grand. It seems to be including quite a lot of extra stuff, but am not sure, will see when it arrives this week.

    Although now I see that the decathalon one comes in Turquoise, I have regrets.

    I now have to think about locks and security. It's been ten years since I got one of those little microchips for my road bike, but I suspect things have moved on. I hope. Maybe an Airtag type thing.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  10. ejstubbs
    Member

    This is what I have on my bikes: https://www.bikeregister.com - the UV covert kit. The solution with the microdots in it is more or less invisible when applied (though it does show up under a UV torch) and you can put it in all sorts of places on the bike, including removable components that might be stripped to be sold on separate from the frame.

    If you'd rather/also use an airtag (not a technology that I'm 100% convinced bya ATM, but other people seem to have more faith in its usefulness) then this solution might suit your needs: https://biketag.co.

    For physical security of the bike I primarily use one of these: https://hiplok.com/product/hiplok-gold/ Hiplok seem to have fairly regular discount/special offer promotions so it might be worth signing up to their mailing list to see if you can strike lucky (I got mine in a 20% off sale that way).

    I'm sure others will have their own suggestions and preferences.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  11. Tulyar
    Member

    Its the torque that nails it, closely followed by type of drive

    @Arellcat & I played with an e-Brompton & both lost traction as we cranked up the manual power, causing the front wheel (driven) to offload and spin on loos gravel or break away & slide on wet pavements, even on a slight turn

    Crank drive systems IMO are testes canisae with the Bosch one having nearly 2x the torque as the Pendix, but it can only be used in specially built frame. Ben at Kinetics can supply Pendix kits which can fit most BB - but need special tools/skills. For a Pendix look at c.£2K to do a good job

    Posted 9 months ago #
  12. the canuck
    Member

    It arrived today!
    and of course it's chucking down, so I have no desire to pootle around the street trying it out.
    apparently I'm not allowed to do this in the flat either, no good reason given.

    The Zoomo rentals have a tracker app as part of the bike computer, which is fairly sweet.

    £100 for a bike lock! gulp. Although that style of lock means I'm not limited to skinny poles.
    Those bike tag things look good, especially as my 'drop it down the well for the seat post' won't work--said well has no bottom.

    I cannot foresee taking this bike out on loose gravel, tbh. It will mainly be a 'getting up that damned hill to New Town' bike.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  13. the canuck
    Member

    After a summer on the EELO, I am generally pleased.
    I was able to take a shorter route because I didn't have to factor in hill climbs, and a back issue that is aggravated by the effort of uphill pedalling has eased off.
    I got to work feeling more energised and without needing a shower or change of clothing.

    Oddly, I feel that drivers treated me differently on the little bike compared to a normal one. It seems that the folding bikes suggest 'office commuter' while a regular bike says, 'anti-car activist'. I have not done peer reviewed research into this.

    The down side is that there is very little storage space, so after-work shopping didn't happen. I hung an Air Bag pannier behind the handlebars to hold my work bag with laptop, and cable-tied a plastic box to the rear pannier for my lunch and rain kit. I hadn't realised that the rear pannier can really only take a case that is narrow enough to fit within the pannier footprint, otherwise heels hit it when pedalling.

    The bike was kept in our open office, so locking was not an issue. My D Lock died this week, so I now have a lock like the hiplock, for the next time I'm using the e-bike.

    There are no gears, so there's a limit on speed, especially on the flat. That was a bit annoying. Also, the pedals continue to move when I walk the bike, so if I forget to turn off the motor, that will engage and rip the bike out of my hands. That was scary.

    The customer support was fantastic. Really pleasant people to work with.

    I'd recommend it for people who want to cycle around but don't want to be sweaty, or who have a health issue that affects cycling--and who can't afford the higher end e-bikes. They're also marketed to people doing the RV lifestyle; park up the RV and pootle around the town on the folding bikes.

    After I'd bought it, I accidentally found out how cheap Zoomo bikes are to rent--if I'd known that, I would have gone that route instead.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  14. LaidBack
    Member

    @the canuck

    I accidentally found out how cheap Zoomo bikes are to rent

    Yes... one month rental for £119 - Zoomo bikes seem well sorted too. Hundreds in use around city (yes often seen with riders doing odd things.) Australian company.

    Can conclude then that the EELO is better than an illegal scooter and good for shorter journeys.

    Posted 8 months ago #

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