Hi I need to hang my 2/3 bikes up on a wall - does anyone have experience with this ? I dont own a drill and I would want something robust and they are many different types. I would like them parallel to the wall- not sticking out - if that makes sense. I used to know a joiner but he has moved away - Help is gratefully received TIA
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(20 posts)- Started 9 months ago by mercury1and2
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The first thing you need to check is the kind of wall the hangar will be attached to. Is it brick/plaster (found in most pre-1980's buildings), or stud wall/plasterboard (found in most post-1980's buildings). The screws/wall plugs needed and where the hangar can be attached will vary depending on the answer.
As long as a brick/plaster wall is sound then standard wall plugs and masonry screws are best, you can mount the hangar pretty much anywhere. You will need a drill with a hammer function.
Stud wall/plasterboard walls are a bit different. Given the weight of a bike you will need to ensure the hangar is screwed into a wooden stud behind the plasterboard. Attach it directly to plasterboard and it will all come tumbling down. No need for a hammer drill, wood or stud wall screws and fittings are probably best. You can buy/borrow stud detectors.
Always use a pipe/cable detector before drilling into a wall.
If you do fancy having a go yourself then you might want to check out the Edinburgh tool library, rather than buying tools for a single use.
I would offer to help, but I'm not a professional and while I have happily fixed up several homes, I would be wary of potentially wrecking someone else's lovely home.
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I'm a relatively poor DIY'er but I was able to install this https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001F0QE9U/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 which is big enough for two adult bikes. I expect a suitable handyman would be able to install it for you in under an hour (I used https://handydavid.co.uk some years ago and he charges £55 for the first hour than £25/hour and would definitely have the knowledge/ability).
The rack has been up for two years with two adult bikes and a kid's bike on it, and it's pretty solid. Easy enough to get things on/off and it folds up when not in use so you don't hit your head off it.
Not my pic but here's one from Amazon showing it in use.
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Thanks all - its my new project - some good hints and tips thanks
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all I would add to Morningsider's post is that many older Edinburgh houses/flats have both types of walls. Some even change half way along thanks to multiple generations of DIY/modifications.
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Bear in mind also that tenement walls, although they appear to be made of brick, are actually made of cheese. It is possible to get a good hold with a Rawlplug, but you'll probably have to drill about 5 holes first, to find one with a solid grip!
I'd suggest using a long and solid wooden batten to attach to the wall, then mounting any bike rack on that batten
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Cheese mixed with lumps of adamantium! Presumably due to indifferent quality control when making bricks so some are crazy hard and others very soft. Plus the mortar joints tend to be quite wide.
Batten a good call if you are constrained in your positioning. Otherwise shield anchors can work well in tenement walls as they expand nicely in the "loose" holes that tend to be created drilling in those cheesy bricks. There's a couple of Cycloc Solo hangers in my partners flat which we put up about 4 years ago with anchors. Solid as a rock. Those hangers probably aren't suitable for you as they do stick out a bit
For lighter things a generous scoosh of gripfill into the hole before inserting the rawlplug works quite well too. The rawlplug expands as normal, pushing the gripfill into any gaps then the whole lot sets nicely.
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To add to the confusion. Many older properties also have lathe and plaster walls. They are a little harder to work with as the timber lathes make it harder to find the stud.
If you do have that type of construction then google/youtube should be able to help you work out what to do.
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I used these Wet and Fix pads a LOT in my old flat which had brick walls but very thick and crumbly plaster! If the hole you drilled is too big or crumbly then you wet them and wrap them around the rail plug and they solidify when they dry.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/WETNFIX-20-DISCS-Fixing-redrill/dp/B01B2ULW7G/ref=sr_1_12_sspa
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"If you have a wall in your home or office, you need WETNFIX in your tool box."
lol.
(seriously though, sounds useful!)
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One easy way to locate the battens behind a plasterboard or lath and plaster wall is to become a thermographer and buy a £30,000 camera. A somewhat more affordable FLIR One attachment for a phone may however achieve a good enough result.
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I should have also mentioned the anomalies you find in timber frame houses too. My old house was a 1990's timber frame and I assume built from a kit as the frames all had OSB on one side then plasterboard on both sides. This led to some interesting results using my stud locator, but also meant that if you missed the joist it was probably OK.
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Love it good ideas- The walls are brick and not really touched so im going place bikes over trad fireplace -non working open fireplace. The wheels may rest on the mantle or not. Im going to enquire it is better having two hangers for 2 bikes so Im going look at some types on web- checked giant shop in Hamilton pl none there and EBC website is awful. My pal may help with a drill - I grudge paying someone £70 per hour
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I have a bike rack that once-in-a-blue-moon (aka summer) transports 2 family bikes on the back of the car.
Once summer is over, it is re-purposed as a wall bike rack for my summer bikes. Dual purpose.Posted 9 months ago # -
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Can offer a reprise of my design services which delivered Homebikepark report for Hackney, plus systems for tenements
For the common close areas, I'd suggest looking for the modern version of Homeport, with 30 years proof of concept and used as system for OyBike, Hourbike, Nextbike, Call-a-Bike since 2001. A tamper proofed cable with electronic code release of lock (for individual user)
The Orion Gamma has been used mounted on uni-strut rails (and self supporting frames) for a number of bike parking areas, and can be used for trikes, tandems, and bakfiets with appropriate spacing/layouts
My 1997 report on cycle parking included a section on residential bike storage
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