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  1. chdot
    Admin

    This really is a bargain - especially when it's on sale, which seems to happen most times EBC has a SALE, like now (until 31st). Currently £29.99, normally £44 (plus free delivery as it's over £20).

    It's hard to have too many tools. Duplicates mean you can have a 'home' kit and a travel kit. Or you've got a spare when you break/lose/lend one.

    At this price these are not designed for daily, heavy duty, workshop use - but they are pretty good quality. The kit contains just about anything you'll ever need for fixing bikes.

    Good for schools, BUGS, etc. too.

    If you don't know how to use them, there's a course for that.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  2. Min
    Member

    Ooooh, I may have to go and check that out..

    Do you think it would fit in a pannier to be carried home?

    Posted 14 years ago #
  3. Kim
    Member

    Yes it should easily fit in a pannier.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  4. cb
    Member

    "The toolbox is slim (35x27x8cm), easily portable and compact - fits any car boot or tour-leader’s pannier. "

    Posted 14 years ago #
  5. Min
    Member

    Hmm, yes I ought to have read the description right to the bottom! :-)

    Posted 14 years ago #
  6. Claggy Cog
    Member

    It did fit in a pannier, however, there would be very little space for anything else, and might suggest that perhaps the tour leader would not want it in their pannier but perhaps the back-up van....

    Posted 14 years ago #
  7. Kim
    Member

    Depends on how big the pannier is...

    Posted 14 years ago #
  8. Claggy Cog
    Member

    My pannier I would say is a standard size with capacity for extra stuff with an extendable sleeve at the top with drawstring. I do my weekly shop with two panniers, but this does not include large volumes of milk or such like...

    Posted 14 years ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    I am guessing when EBC said "fits any car boot or tour-leader's pannier" they were trying to suggest the toolkit was kind of portable but also quite bulky. A further guess about the tour-leader the EBC is talking about is a kind hearted soul who has arranged a tour on touring bicycles who has two panniers, one for tools to share and the other for her stuff. This would mean the touring party would not need to bring individual toolkits [in my head people would bring their own stuff anyway but just a small seat post bag arrangement]. For example the trip to the tunnel of the drips just before the Falkirk Wheel proposed on another string of this venerable forum [which has been slightly chided for blethering rather than writing to MSPs by DdF of Spokes] could have someone nominated to take the toolkit? In both scenarios there is no back-up van. That is a Belleville Rendezvous type scenario only. However, I would love to see Alberto Contador going up the Ventoux with two Ortlieb Rolltops and his weekly shopping. I used to do my weekly shopping [milk excluded as we still have milkman out here] with two such panniers which became somewhat dilapidated after two years of this. Then one day I was in the EBC waiting for something and spotted that Ortlieb offer a five year warranty, I therefore asked for a new pair and was given them but I also spotted on the EBC computer that I am recorded as a pannier abuser. I have therefore given up the weekly shop and just get the supermarket to deliver.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    "venerable forum"

    steady, it's only been going 2 months

    " [which has been slightly chided for blethering rather than writing to MSPs by DdF of Spokes] "

    not the way I read his comment - I think he was actually saying he'd like to spend more time here, but that he already has enough calls on his time - he does produce the Spokes bulletin virtually single handed, which requires keeping an eye on all sorts cycling/political issues.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    Apologies for my paranoia. I thought Dave was correctly pointing out as you say that he was very busy with important stuff but didn't pick up that he would like to spend more time blethering with us too. Either way, I think he is spot on as Spokes does important work.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  12. SRD
    Moderator

    I did a farmer's market (inc. massive eeps and two venison haggis) and grocery run (inc. big milk and big bottles of Innis and Gunn to accompany haggis), yesterday with the cheapo EBC panniers, but my bike was so heavy, that when it leaned over at the waitrose bike rack, (because I was talking to a guy about the new bike stands as discussed on this forum) I fell over too because it was too heavy to get vertical again....most embarrassing.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  13. Kim
    Member

    Aye we need to start reminding Waitrose that they "were" going to provide a cycle trailer for customer use. There was a big thing made of it at some of their other stores a year or so back, but then it all went quiet. Now that would be a useful service.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    "we need to start reminding Waitrose that they "were" going to provide a cycle trailer for customer use"

    Don't know about that proposal. Tesco had BikeHods when they opened in Corstorphine - not sure how long that lasted.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  15. cb
    Member

    Waitrose press release

    Also,
    Deliveries by bike

    Posted 14 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    Thanks.

    Not planned for Edinburgh (yet?)

    Posted 14 years ago #
  17. Kim
    Member

    When Waitrose first introducing cycle trailers down south, there were a number of customers who asked would they be coming to the Edinburgh stores. At that time it was suggested that they may be, depending on how things when down south. Well a year on things have gone a wee bit quite, may be it is time to start asking again. If you don't ask, you don't get...

    Posted 14 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    See if this gets any response -

    "Do you use Waitrose cycle trailers?

    Will they come to Edinburgh?

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=239#post-1872 "

    http://twitter.com/CyclingEdin/status/8191473743

    Posted 14 years ago #
  19. SRD
    Moderator

    I've emailed the press officer email on the release, and asked "I wondered how the bike trailers worked at the stores listed, and if any further thought's been given to trialling them in Edinburgh? "

    Posted 14 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    New "Trailers for Waitrose?" thread here -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=249

    Posted 14 years ago #
  21. kaputnik
    Moderator

    For the record, avoid the EBC bottom bracket tool if you value your knuckles, fingers, arms and sanity.

    Dreadfully designed, guaranteed to fire your knuckles and the wrench into the frame if you try and put a bit of force into it.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  22. recombodna
    Member

    I've never had a problem with it . Removed loads o bb's and never drawn blood. The crank extracter is a total joke though.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  23. kaputnik
    Moderator

    After having finally got the thing in (and I've also never had a problem getting them out with it) I'm not sure whether to blame the tool or the Shimano "compact" drive side cup. There's only about 3mm depth of notches on these BBs for the splines of the tool to bind with.

    Design "flaw" A is that the splines on the Revolution BB tool are tapered. I assume that's to help guide it into BBs with deeper cups. Unfortunately on the compact cup it means that you are putting the torque on the tool with only the narrow parts of the splines engaged. Therefore it's loose and rattly and prone to suddenly slip or fall out if you've not got a way to hold it in.

    Design "flaw" B is that it is too long, meaning that you are engaging your wrench needlessly far out from the BB. This compounds the issue with the wobbly fit as the whole thing is acting as a lever every time you put force on it - unless you're pretty much sitting on top of it, every time you get a bit of force on it, it just flies out at a tangent, normally sending your knuckles or arms into a painful part of the frame.

    Design "flaw" C is that the flats for the wrench are too small and there's a ridge between the flats and the main body of the tool. This means that you can't get the whole wrench onto the flats.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  24. Dave
    Member

    Could you use a QR or something to hold the tool in place? (I know it's on the BB so would need something bodged up, but might be helpful stabilising the tool?)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  25. recombodna
    Member

    A large washer and bolt into the axle works to hold it in place.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  26. SRD
    Moderator

    this is a really classic thread eh?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    I think you mean classic CCE thread!

    Shooting vaguely OT in various directions, then coming back.

    Then...

    Posted 11 years ago #

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