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Sports massage - any recommendations?

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  • Started 13 years ago by Dave
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  1. Dave
    Member

    The weird and wonderful world of CCE continues...

    I've got a persistant knee niggle that starting to give me more trouble as I spend more time on the road. From a physio appointment couple of years ago I think I recognize the signs of a tight ITB and so I'm looking for someone to give me a painful working over in the form of sports massage.

    There are many Google returns for Edinburgh and all priced similarly, so I thought I would fall back on asking if anyone has a recommendation. Otherwise I shall just have to toss a coin!

    Posted 13 years ago #

  2. chdot
    Admin

    "The weird and wonderful world of CCE continues..."

    Indeed

    Someone will know the answer to your question!

    (But they might prefer to PM...)

    Posted 13 years ago #

  3. Min
    Member

    I don't know about sports massage but I can recommened one of these foam rollers to iron out stuff spotted by a masseur. With your ITB, the first few times you use it will cause terrible, excruciating pain. But that's how you know it is working and it will get better.

    Posted 13 years ago #

  4. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    You could try contacting Colin Russell at ERC or Keppie Fit who offer ERC members a 10% discount according to the 2010 handbook.

    Posted 13 years ago #

  5. ruggtomcat
    Member

    +1 for Collin Russel

    Posted 13 years ago #

  6. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    I keep meaning to find out somewhere to go for this then never getting round to it - this thread might prove the spur!

    Posted 13 years ago #

  7. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Ditto. My right knee seems to play up early in "the season"

    Posted 13 years ago #

  8. Dave
    Member

    Unfortuately Colin is off on some sort of training camp I understand - I was already recommended him by a couple of co-audaxeers.

    Hrm. I could ring the physio I went to a couple of years back, but I'm not sure about the massage side of it.

    I roll on wine bottles because I'm too cheap to buy a foam roller. However, I'm beginning to wonder if they aren't so hard that they're counterproductive (too much focused pressure stops me from getting the real benefit).

    Posted 13 years ago #

  9. Min
    Member

    "I roll on wine bottles because I'm too cheap to buy a foam roller. "

    ROFL! Lovely picture there!

    I suspect a foam roller is cheaper than a sports massage though. And you may well be right about the hardness, the foam seems to be quite hard enough to me anyway.

    Posted 13 years ago #

  10. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Can someone please tell me more about these rollers? I've never heard of them.

    Posted 13 years ago #

  11. Dave
    Member

    Basically it's a way of stretching tissue - particularly useful when your joints don't bend in such a way as to allow you to do it conventionally (say the ITB - which runs from your hip to your knee down the seam of your trews).

    As far as I understand it's not rocket science - you just apply localised pressure (the rollingness is to make it convenient to apply in different places without a lot of faff).

    But then, clearly I don't know that much about it because it felt like someone was stabbing my knee with a knitting needle on Sunday!

    Posted 13 years ago #

  12. Min
    Member

    CM-You apply your own body weight to them and roll. It is kind of a DIY sports massage.

    So for example, to roll your ITB you lie on the roller sideways, supporting yourself with your hands and roll up and down between the knee and hip (don't roll over any joints). Your weight will supply a surprising amount of pressure and you'll find you can't cheat just because it hurts!

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  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I know self-help is generally frowned upon in medical / physiotherapy circles, but I've been trying this;

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    as my annual springtime "cranking up the miles and effort" knee niggles feel a bit like they might be about to return.

    I'm currently trying it on one knee and not the other to compare the effect of this exercise by way of a control. My left knee is currently warm and tingly and free of pain after feeling tight and strained all day.

    Posted 13 years ago #

  14. Jackson Priest
    Member

    This topic still doesn't look very resolved, so thought I would add to it...

    I've just been to Bill Taylor Physiotherapy at Comely Bank - have had flare up of old knee/calf injury which I've been ignoring for the last 3 months but is now too painful to cycle on.

    They seemed very thorough, and did cracky things as well as a very hurty massage. Have been told I won't be able to cycle for 2-3 weeks, while I do exercises and go back for more massagey type stuff, so will report back on how good they are.

    Meanwhile I am living in a bus-based hell, while wondering how fit I'll be to do various planned rides in the summer. Boo hoo.

    Posted 13 years ago #

  15. Dave
    Member

    To follow up in my own case, I had a massage session and readjusted my cleats, and since then I've not had a recurrence of the problem.

    I am thinking about a general physio trip to look at muscle balance and getting some more regular massage, but as ever, when a problem goes away it's hard to motivate yourself to do anything more preventative!

    Posted 13 years ago #

  16. gembo
    Member

    I thought the rollers were little foam tubes with concave surface you put your foot on and rolled, like Dave I have seen that done with a wine bottle

    this bit from min confused me

    So for example, to roll your ITB you lie on the roller sideways, supporting yourself with your hands and roll up and down between the knee and hip (don't roll over any joints). Your weight will supply a surprising amount of pressure and you'll find you can't cheat just because it hurts!

    I get sore knees when in cleat even in my sad little loose MTB cleats, gawd knows how I would fair in proper road shoes. Maybe the rollers will help.

    Shang-A-Lang

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  17. Dave
    Member

    It's almost impossible to stretch the band directly because you can't bend in a very targeted way. Applying direct pressure to one part of it forces that part to stretch to accommodate the roller. It's just as sore as stretching is, if not moreso (because it isolates one section completely).

    You can roller normal muscles too. I find it quite effective on my quads, although it doesn't work at all on my hamstrings (no idea why!)

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  18. Its_Me_Knees
    Member

    @Kaputnik. I've just tried that massage. Either my hands are small or my knees are huge: I can't get my hand around to do the one-handed massage near the start of the video.
    However, I might persist with these massages: I didn't get my user name for nowt. My commute is now semi-regular, so my weekly mileage has almost doubled, and my knees were aching after my ride on Wednesday. Encouragingly no stabbing, knitting-needle pains, just a general dull ache, so hopefully it's 'good' stress, not bad. Today's commute felt better, and a wee guided rub courtesy of the video seems to have eased the joints even more.

    Is there a massage video for prominent beer gut reduction?

    Posted 13 years ago #

  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Is there a massage video for prominent beer gut reduction?

    Just google "cycling" :D

    Posted 13 years ago #

  20. Its_Me_Knees
    Member

    My weekly mileage may need to increase several orders of magnitude to deal with the beer gut then. Mind, if I got rid of it completely, I'd have nothing to self-loathe about... :-)

    Posted 13 years ago #

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