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  1. DaveC
    Member

    I friend of my sis in law reported this:

    A

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    I have belatedly decided to remove this person's name.

    Just in case...

    , cycling into work as the roads were busy yesterday. whilst doing ~20mph apparently knowned over a 48 year old who stepped into his path. The other guy has serious head injuries and is taken to St George's Hospital. The cops keep A in their car for 4 hours and warn if the other guy dies they might charge him with involuntary manslaughter!! The other guy is still alive by all acounts and A has been released, but thissounds a little overthe top by the cops especially considering posts on here stating car drivers who have killed cyclist being given fines.

    Posted 14 years ago #

  2. Min
    Member

    No, that seems like a perfectly normal response from the Police for the crime of riding a bike in a public place.

    Posted 14 years ago #

  3. wingpig
    Member

    It seems to return to this thing about [simulated opinion] it being apparently quite possible to perceive a car-mediated fatality as perfectly nice and completely accidental - after all, they're very heavy things, and can travel awfully fast very easily! A moment's distraction or inattention, and whoops! Of course, with all those airbags and crumple zones and straps the driver's usually OK, thank goodness! No harm done!
    Whereas a bicycle requires a certain amount of effort to propel, therefore propelling one at a speed sufficient to cause injury to someone else must have required significant deliberate effort and was therefore deliberate and malicious and most likely premeditated and therefore unexoneratable[/simulated opinion].

    It's like when giant vicious dogs bit children's faces off when I was small: all that used to happen was that the dog was put down, despite it being the fault of the owner who should have been in control of the dog or shouldn't have got one they couldn't effectively contol. Cars are treated as lovable pets which occasionally accidentally savage someone.

    Posted 14 years ago #

  4. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    If cars were really like dogs they'd get put down after mauling someone...

    Which is going to make an interesting short article in citycycling this month.

    Posted 14 years ago #

  5. Min
    Member

    "Cars are treated as lovable pets which occasionally accidentally savage someone. "

    Well it is only ever the cars that kill or injure people. The drivers never do. Ever heard of anyone being hit by a driver? No, they are hit by the car.

    Posted 14 years ago #

  6. Dave
    Member

    A very good point. It is always described in terms of the cyclist (person) and the vehicle (inanimate). When do you ever hear "suchandsuch road is currently shut while the emergency services attend to someone hit by a driver"?

    Posted 14 years ago #

  7. kaputnik
    Moderator

    If cars were really like dogs they'd get put down after mauling someone...

    and their owners given a ban on keeping them

    Posted 14 years ago #

  8. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    If cars were really like dogs they'd get put down after mauling someone...

    and their owners given a ban on keeping them

    Yes!

    Posted 14 years ago #

  9. DaveC
    Member

    Sorry perhaps that was wrong of me to add the person's name.

    I also hit someone at Morningside station ~10 years ago, heading south to the lights. I was on the white line passing stationary traffic when this lady popped out from in front of a car. Being in the middle of the road, she only looked left before stepping out into the path of me on my bike. We called an ambulance and she was taken away incase of concussion. No police were called, just the ambulance.

    Just shows we cycle down the outside of traffic to avoid on coming vehicals turning right across out path, but when pedestrians cross they invariably only give a cursery glance left before continuing across the road.

    I don't know the exact events of the story I passed on, but no doubt it will come out later.

    Posted 14 years ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    "Sorry perhaps that was wrong of me to add the person's name."

    I had assumed it had 'made the news', but not visible on Google - though the CCE mention was...

    Small risk of personal disadvantage - beyond the trauma of the incident and immediate aftermath.

    Posted 14 years ago #

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