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when in Rome. Traffic in Italian cities.

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  • Started 13 years ago by thebikechain
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  1. thebikechain
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    Having returned from honeymoon in Italia it is with some joy I realised how lucky we are to have our traffic!

    Not perfect here but at least it isn't the general chaos that appears to be commonplace there.

    Bizarrely though I think I would rather have been on the bike than in a car. It was odd how drivers had a 6th sense for ped and bike avoiding.

    Anyway. One other thing I noticed.... Italians don't actually dress as well as you would think on bikes. Heinous.

    Anyone been riding much in disorderly lands?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. amir
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    The south of Tuscany wasn't too bad - pretty peaceful and with apparent respect for cyclists. The Pisa-Lucca-Florence corridor though is far busier with dodgy driving. I thought the road cycling gear was generally pretty good (with some awful exceptions) and I actually bought some. There is more use of white than here even on the shorts. Of course the sun and no rain helps. I thought that more cyclists used lycra than here at least out of the cities. In the cities there was extensive use of town bikes.

    I have also lived in Argentina. Driving standards there are disastrous (funnily most of the peoplehave italian ancestry). However there are some great dirt roads in the country that are good for peaceful cycling (with fat tyres).

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. crowriver
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    I've cycled in Sofia, Bulgaria. For a long time i was too scared to do it as the roads were full of huge potholes and the general standard of driving seemed to be appalling. Dangerous habits like extreme speeding, tailgating, jumping red lights at high speed, etc. are commonplace.

    The city repaired a lot of roads a year ago, so I took the plunge, ensuring I had a helmet and hi-viz waistcoat, not usual attire for most Bulgarian cyclists who just cycle in whatever they're wearing. I found most drivers gave me a wide berth: maybe they thought I was a police officer.

    In the end it was not the cars, lorries and buses that were the problem at all. Rather more terrifying were the packs of stray dogs that I would encounter occasionally on quiet side streets. Also there is a particularly large, vicious type of guard dog over there: these dogs appear unencumbered by any type of restraint and I was chased several times.

    So the usual rules about cycling that we observe in this country (stick to quiet streets, avoid busy roads) were reversed. To avoid the canine menace, I had to mix it with traffic on the fast roads. Recommended only for reasonably confident cyclists...

    Oh yeah, there are some nice and really helpful little bike shops in the city. Very quick and cheap maintenance if needed.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. Stepdoh
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    Just back from pretty much the middle of Pisa-Lucca-Florence corridor (as well as some time in Emilia Romagna), didn't find the driving too bad (mind you my continental driving skillz were the subject of an opinion piece in the Dundee Courier not so long ago)

    The congestion charge zones meant I was keeping out of most city centres (in the case of Florence just went by very cheap train from Empoli, €3.60 return!).

    Cycling was interesting, there was very much a split between transport cyclists in normal clothes, and loads of folk on swish roadbikes with perfectly matched team lycra.

    Was quite amused that the closest tiny town to mine had an active UCI registered road club with 160 members. There was ten houses and a bar (with divine pizza)!

    Really wished I'd had a swish bike (and some perfectly matched lycra, natch) to hoon around the roads, it looked fantastic.

    Other thing I leaned is that Bianchi also make really crappy looking BSOs. Was quite surprised by that.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. wingpig
    Member

    Meanwhile, in Rome:

    https://clairecycles.wordpress.com/2017/11/26/cycling-in-rome-a-physical-manifestation-of-dantes-inferno/

    Contains very good swearing.
    Instructive in an "Edinburgh could be far worse" way.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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