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  1. Tulyar
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    The Brompton Dock automated cycle hire unit (40 hire points fit onto a single car parking space and can normally operate without any wired connection) has been approved for operation at Guildford Station. The scheme is an expansion of the Stagecoach South West Trains 50-bike operation that has been running from the Lost Property counter at Waterloo since May 2009, and the Virgin Trains scheme due for a public launch on Friday 24th June at Stoke on Trent.

    Unlike the bike share schemes (ie Boris bikes) user are encouraged to hire bikes for longer periods and a single storage bin/locker can support 2-4 bikes out on hire (a shared bike system needs at least 50% more docking points than bikes in circulation, more when flows are tidal as in London, or a very costly cycle moving operation)

    Small fleets of branded Bromptons also operate with manual issue (eg Daily Telegraph staff bikes) using the same model with the option to scale up to 24/7 automated unit as the units move to a production line version. Hire/leasing bikes may provide a way to deliver without the payroll and other tie-ins of other workplace cycling options, and branding of bikes has for 15 years funded the maintenance of the Copenhagen City Bike scheme.

    My experience of cycle hire schemes to date is that they work best so far as another form of public transport which has a significant buy in from a public transport operator. Abellio (NL), Die Bahn (De), Veolia (Fr) Keolis (Fr), SRWT (Be) are all major bus and rail operators in Europe, who have been running modern cycle sharing/hire schemes since 2001, some with 100% interest in the operation. many incidentally also have a shae in their local car (sharing) clubs.

    There is a clear benefit to the PT operator, already measured from car club members but not from cyclists (A spokes/Edinburgh survey?). Car club members make more than 6 times as many rail trips, twice as many bus trips, and twice as many cycle trips as the National Travel Survey averages. The key players should thus be selling car clubs to bus pass users and bus passes to car club members, and doing likewise with rail season ticket users. A cycle hire scheme may well have a similar market profile - so do Edinburgh's cyclists use buses, car club, and rail services more than the National average, how many hold driving licences but don't own a car?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. Morningsider
    Member

    Tulyar - interesting thoughts. It would be nice to know the source of your car club statistics. I would urge a bit of caution though - the Scottish sample of the UK national travel survey is pretty small (around 1600) and has a large margin of error when you get down to cycle usage statistics, due to the small number of regular cyclists in the sample.

    Also, statistics such as "twice as many cycle trips as average" could be considered (by some) to be a bit misleading given that around 95% of people never get on a bike. It is not difficult to make twice as many trips when the average is almost nothing. The same goes for rail - over 50% of people never get on a train.

    My gut feeling is that these statistics might lead people to confuse cause and effect (I'm sure that isn't your intention)- it is quite likely that the kind of people who join car clubs are already regular cyclists/PT users rather than joining a car club making them more likely to cycle/use PT. I would be more than happy to be proved wrong though - can you provide any links to research or stats you have on this?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. Tulyar
    Member

    There is an annual survey of car club members download from Carplus umbrella group for car clubs. Tables 7.1 to 7.3 give results compared to NTS (overall UK) and LTS (London) - hence car club stats.

    TRL did a profile study of cyclists about 15 years ago which found higher level of drivers than general population, higher home ownership, and uber-geek level of participation for computing and internet access

    A similar review for CTC membership survey (say 10% of 67000 members respond) or a Spokes review for Edinburgh might provide some interesting insights on how cyclists make longer/shorter trips and shift large loads compared with the general population.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    GOOD DEAL if you have a season ticket!

    http://www.southwesttrains.co.uk/bromptonbikes.aspx

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. cb
    Member

    "GOOD DEAL if you have a season ticket!"

    I think the article about this in a recent A to B suggested that some users were keeping bikes out on hire permanantly.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    "TRL did a profile study of cyclists about 15 years ago which found higher level of drivers than general population, higher home ownership, and uber-geek level of participation for computing and internet access."

    Personally I am not surprised by this last one! :p

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "suggested that some users were keeping bikes out on hire permanantly"

    Well, seems cheaper than buying one!

    Presume SWT has done its sums and Brompton is obviously offering a good bulk price.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. Tulyar
    Member

    Rates for new locations are not as discounted as the introductory deal for season tickets. Stoke is £5/day £20/week £60/month with £50 joining charge (and you pay full price if bike goes AWOL)

    MOST users of current schemes keep bikes out permanently and only swap for servicing.

    SWT saves on the disruption and cost of building bigger car parks (and cycle parking) and with empty spaces after the morning peak they can sell car park spaces at full day rates, to more than one user, and bring in groups to fill off peak services through having car parking space available.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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