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LGV Safety

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  1. Smudge
    Member

    Hello all,

    There has been quite a bit of discussion on here of the safety/danger of large vehicles.

    IF I was able to organise it, would there be interest in forumers having a look around an LGV/LGV's to see what the driver can/can't see and have a chat about what's easy/difficult about manouvreing them in traffic? (I think seeing things from the point of view of another road user is always useful!)

    I can't promise it's possible, and we don't at the moment have any artics (or *very* large wagons) here, and if I can it wont be for a couple of months at least. Just testing the water though...

    Posted 12 years ago #

  2. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    Yes, absolutely. From a personal and a citycycling point of view.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  3. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Count me in too. I don't go up the nearside of a bus or articulated vehicle unless it's stationary and I can see a clear route beyond it and I can't go around the offside and I have good cause not to wait in line.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  4. custard
    Member

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    1 min 43 is the most common i would say

    Posted 12 years ago #

  5. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    Count me in too. I don't go up the nearside of a bus or articulated vehicle unless it's stationary and I can see a clear route beyond it and I can't go around the offside and I have good cause not to wait in line.

    And I can see that it's definitely not going to be moving again in the very near future.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  6. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Excellent video, should be handed out as a freebie with all adult bikes! Never ever go down the inside of a lorry/bus, this IS how cyclists get killed.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  7. wingpig
    Member

    Yip. I hate how obscured my field of view is even in a mere car.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  8. Dave
    Member

    I don't go up the inside of anything articulated period. ;-)

    In a past life I rode around in an HGV quite a bit, although never in the driving seat. It would be interesting to try (the same goes for buses, actually).

    Posted 12 years ago #

  9. splitshift
    Member

    Smudge, great idea, ill personally run it past my manager tomorrow,weve got a good number of cyclists here, not promising anything , but would prob be brownie points for my company too !Could maybe organise it one evening in the city at one of our outlets, off road, service srea type thing ! Might be an idea if some police involvement as well ? anybody know anyone whose a polis ?

    Posted 12 years ago #

  10. Kirst
    Member

    If something was organised and could be open to quite a few people, I'd like to raise it with the council and see if they would publicise it for staff to attend.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  11. Smudge
    Member

    Cool Splitshift, let us know how it goes.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  12. splitshift
    Member

    Am on the job ! Looking like a goer but might involve dreaded health and safety issues, managers looking into ! suspect no breath holding ! but well see !

    Posted 12 years ago #

  13. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    Funny that H&S might get thrown as an excuse not to do something which improves health and, well, safety...

    I used to be H&S officer at my old work - the misapplication of the rules by other H&S officers used to really wind me up.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  14. splitshift
    Member

    H+ S.....oh well at least it keeps us covered ! awaits bullets ! I agree its the wrong attitude. Well if the visit is on a sucure site, ie off the public road,and the correct risk assesments are in place, I can with a wee bit of notice, provide, as long as its at the begining of a week, a full size, 44 ton artic and trailer . Generally speaking ! My manager had apparently done something similar in a previous post. He thinks its a great idea, but business needs must come first. Fair enough ! I will hopefully also bring my air cadets along and get them to talk to more experienced cyclists, they atr all dead keen on bikes, but with limited knowledge or experience ! So, over to you !

    Posted 12 years ago #

  15. Smudge
    Member

    SS,can you pm me with an email address? We may be able to sort something out location-wise, if you know the location of the (old) Air Cadet HQ in Edinburgh that's where I'm thinking of.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  16. chdot
    Admin

    Just wondering if people are still working on this.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  17. splitshift
    Member

    Think so, various work stuff can get in the way but ive deff got the go ahead for a lorry etc.smudge and myself trying to get the rest organised , i think !

    Posted 12 years ago #

  18. Smudge
    Member

    Not forgotten, but just back tonight from holiday, unfortunately in time for a run of major "life events" leading to a critical shortage of spare time over coming weeks/months.

    Some good, some bad, normal service resumed soon(ish!) with a bit of luck.

    Will try and liaise with Mr SS and sort something out soon anyway :)

    Posted 12 years ago #

  19. chdot
    Admin

    @Smudge

    GREAT

    Will be popular if you can get it organised.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  20. Kirst
    Member

    I was thinking about this thread today as I saw the news that another female cyclist has been killed by a lorry in London.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  21. Smudge
    Member

    :-/ I would love to say I'm on the case with this, but unfortunately I'm not just now :-(
    Various things, including the predicted arrival of a mini-Smudge (B-)) have robbed me of any free time just now.
    Keep prodding me though and in the event I get any time I'll try to get things moving.

    Sorry it's a bit of a crap answer :-(

    Posted 12 years ago #

  22. splitshift
    Member

    mini smudge !! well done ! congrats. You about 24th october ? Bike Club presentation in cally park business park. Might also be trying to organise trail leader traing so, might even get the whole lgv thing happening here !,apparently my employer has a slight link with this organisation so,we will see ! watch this space ! All the best to all the smudges and smudgees !
    scott

    Posted 12 years ago #

  23. Smudge
    Member

    Thanks :)
    Strangely the 24th is about the only day in the next month or two when I *may* be available! I shall keep an eye out for further info...

    Posted 12 years ago #

  24. chdot
    Admin

    "I was thinking about this thread today as I saw the news that another female cyclist has been killed by a lorry in London."

    "

    christianwolmar:

    How cyclist's death in King's Cross might have been avoided. Very sad. http://t.co/zCfOgcc0

    Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/christianwolmar/status/122221487368310784

    Posted 12 years ago #

  25. SRD
    Moderator

    Must admit I walked my bike through that one last time I was in London.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  26. chdot
    Admin

    "
    smsm1:

    Progress being made towards a charge of corporate manslaughter against TfL in Kings X cyclist death http://t.co/GV7Z9p3p

    Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/smsm1/status/125932636370763776

    "

    Posted 12 years ago #

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