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So is it legal to look at web sites on your mobile as long as you don't talk??
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"Help for motorists driven to distraction by parking"
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Posted 12 years ago #
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I see the commenters are really trotting out the 'anti-car' mantra today.
Built-out bus stops are apparently specifically designed to *stop* car traffic and increase car journey times (no, I'm not sure why either). Any of these 'anti-car' shouting mob really need to get out of their tin boxes and wakl or cycle round the city for a bit, then they'd soon see the reality of matters!
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"How or why a council can be anti-car is really quite bizarre. The car is by far the most convenient,
reliable, comfortable, flexible, enjoyable, quickest, cheapest, etc... form of transport. The car should be embraced for what it is. I don`t know of any form of public transport that picks me up from my front door at exactly the time I want, assists me with my golf clubs, trolley and kit bag and then drops me off at the front door of my golf club. Not to mention the return journey.RE the city center. When drivers drive into the city at rush hour, they KNOW that it is busy and it will take longer than usual to get from A to B. However, drivers still CHOOSE to drive. Why the council feels obliged to intervene, given that drivers are armed with this knowledge, I have no idea. Roads are for driving on. That
s what they are for. Why close them? Why prevent right turns here, ahead only there, traffic lights on roundabout, etc, etc... These measures unnecessarily SLOW the traffic flow. Why do that? Whats the point in slowing the traffic? The measures introduced by Edinburgh council makes it clear that those responsible for traffic management in Edinburgh are incompetent. It`s no wonder that this city has deteriorated to the state it is in today. The car is here, and here to stay, and good riddance."Posted 12 years ago # -
@ anth at work
sometimes I think you are a glutton for punishment for trawling through the EEN commenters, however you are providing a window into another world
everything is so compartmentalised and so very angry all the time
as I write this I do wonder whether in a parallel universe on a motoring MSN chat forum there is another gembo thanking another anth for trawling through the crazy cyclist forum to shed light for the other forum users into the world of the cycle commenters. The big difference of course being that we are right :-)
Posted 12 years ago # -
"as I write this I do wonder whether in a parallel universe on a motoring MSN chat forum there is another gembo thanking another anth for trawling through the crazy cyclist forum to shed light for the other forum users into the world of the cycle commenters."
Scary prospect, fortunately at least people don't bother to register here just to post argumentative nonsense. I can't quite understand why EN/S attract so many commenters, the Herald doesn't. The H web site isn't as good in terms of finding stuff but the main stories are there and hardly commented on.
"The big difference of course being that we are right :-)"
Well of course the righteous 'we' would say that.But when Anth and I started this, didn't really know how it would develop. We emailed all the people we knew - not least the people registered with his on-line mag .citycycling.
So this forum could have become inhabited by 'extreme' cyclists who hate motorists and demand the right to cycle everywhere etc. etc.
But the reality is a bit different. Posters on here are a very mixed bunch (in a very good way) - people who (mostly) like cycling - because it's fun, practical etc. 'We' know - whether we are very experienced or just nervous novices that 'things could be better'.
BUT we are not wanting better conditions just for the selfish reasons of making it saver/easier for US. We want more people cycling - not just because it (should) mean fewer cars in the way.
Imagine people wanting more people to drive...
Posted 12 years ago # -
So is it legal to look at web sites on your mobile as long as you don't talk??
Probably, provided the mobile isn't hand-held (i.e. in some kind of bracket). It's not really any different than any other navigation information provided by way of a screen in the car, with all the hazards and benefits that go with other sat-nav functions.
Posted 12 years ago # -
So is it legal to look at web sites on your mobile as long as you don't talk??
(- whilst driving I assume, although I guess you're meant to stop to use it.)
Surely anybody looking at websites whilst while driving would be driving without due care and attention?Also the statement:
Andrew Busby, business manager for Town and City Parking, the firm carrying out the trial for free, added: "George Street is one of the busiest streets in Scotland, possibly in the UK.
is laughable! (IMHO)Posted 12 years ago # -
"So is it legal to look at web sites on your mobile as long as you don't talk??"
Not neccessarily, you can't send text messages AFAIK, for example.
I don't see why it would be illegal to look at a website such as Google Maps, which provides satnav functions, on a phone mounted in a holder of some kind. That would be just the same as a dedicated satnav, many of which have Bluetooth phone integration in any case.
Some in car "infotainment" screens have browsers too...
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