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Going to America (USA)

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  • Started 12 years ago by ExcitableBoy
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  1. ExcitableBoy
    Member

    Hello All,

    My wife and I are planning to go in 2 years time to the USA (+/- Canada). At the moment the plans are very much in the early stages. The intention is to take our bikes and cycle. Possible places to visit include: Montreal,Niagra Falls, Great Lakes, Chicago, New York, ?? as far as Florida. This would be over 5 to 6 weeks in July/Aug. Probably cycling about 40 miles a day depending on terrain etc. - even taking the train if it was necessary (the map suggests its a big place ;) )

    So the question is: has anyone cycled in the USA? Any thoughts, tips etc, very welcome. I've bought a couple of Rough guides but they are of little help re. cycling over there.

    Cheers.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. SRD
    Moderator

    Have just been near some of the great lakes, and was impressed by local cycle culture (brewery cycle tours!), but be warned the distances are huge and much of the terrain is flat and boring. I would check out US cycling magazines (of which there are a huge nunber) or forums and very specific books, with suggested routes.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    There's a highly idiosyncratic tale of a COMPLETE coast to coast ride starting here -

    http://jacquiephelan.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/build-up-with-soap

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I think Arrelcat has recumbinated across North America?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. Morningsider
    Member

    I've cycled in Chicago and Miami. Cycling in Chicago is pretty good, some decent off-road infrastructure and drivers seemed fairly used to cyclists. I would suggest packing an ample supply of brown trousers if you fancy cycling in or around Miami, as cycling is not at all common and there is no cycle infrastructure to speak of.

    A couple of practical things you might want to consider - it will be blisteringly hot and humid in many of the places you are thinking of cycling around. Choose your cycle attire with care.

    Trains - Amtrak trains are pretty good and generally carry bikes - full details at:

    http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer?c=Page&pagename=am%2FLayout&cid=1241337895554

    Away from the North-East Amtrak rail services are fairly sketchy or non-existent. However, there are a number of commuter railroads around major metropolitan areas. You can find links to most public transport options in the USA on the American Public Transportation Association (APTA) website:

    http://www.apta.com/Pages/default.aspx

    Just use the "Find public transportation in your area" box on the homepage.

    The good people at Bike New York (NY's equivalent of SPOKES) should be able to offer a few tips or further contacts, details at:

    http://www.bikenewyork.org/

    Happy planning - I'm not jealous at all...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. Arellcat
    Moderator

    My advice to cycling in America is: for goodness sake remember to ride on the right-hand side of the road! It came quite easily to me until I started navigating complex junctions, and my hardwired cyclingness was nearly my undoing. The unnerving thing for us British bikeists is that now and again there'll be a crossroads, where every exit is actually three or four lanes both ways, and instead of a nice big roundabout, they just have a huge expanse of tarmac, and instinct isn't the best thing to rely on. If you have a mirror, remember to swap it to the left-hand side of your bike. Big city riding like Albany or Toronto seemed pretty much like London or Glasgow to me - lots of cars, lots of big roads, intense but fun as long as you know where you're going. You don't want to be trying to do u-turns when it's three lanes each way, trust me! :-(

    Away from the multi-lane roads it can be really rather pleasant. Out of towns, I think the first real road riding I did was following Bike Route 5 in NY and it was a fairly standard A road made suitably quiet by the nearby interstate. The thing I couldn't get used to was nearly every road having shoulders, some littered with junk, others were as wide and smooth as the North Edinburgh Path Network. I was never quite sure whether to ride in them or not, but I usually did, so I tended to ride a foot or so from the white line - enough to be visible and to have a good view in my mirror, and enough to give me a safety margin which I think I rarely needed. I must have lucked out and met only the more enlightened drivers, but then again I wasn't riding in South Carolina or Texas or New Mexico. But in North Carolina there are some drivers who either think it's fun to play-kill cyclists, or who have a problem with their steering skills because they're too busy using the phone or smoking or chatting to passengers. I found that quite scary. Mind you, it could be that there actually is a problem with their steering, judging by the ludicrously un-MOTable vehicles tooling around.

    If you're going anywhere insecty, like along a canal or lake shore, be sure to pop into Tiso before you go, and buy some Lifesystems Expedition Plus insect repellent, the 50%+ one. It's nasty stuff as far as God's Happy Creatures are concerned, but it does the trick and smells quite tolerable. I didn't use it initially, thinking that massive layers of Boots factor 50 suntan cream and sweat would make a nice drowning medium, but eventually I got tired of being bitten; some of the horsefly things bit through two layers of Buff!

    I've only taken my bike flying once, and I used a snowboard case for the frame (the monstrousbike's is long and thin) and a regular padded bike transit bag for everything else. Don't underestimate the knocks that a bike can get - sometimes the more 'bike' it looks the more care they'll take, sometimes. I put 'FRAGILE' tape around my transit bag, since it had a pair of expensive wheels inside it, armoured with two sheets of coroplast, and it survived perfectly well, but my snowboard case sustained a big dent in one corner on the homeward trip. TSA might want to peek inside too, so any box or bag has to be easily undone and done-upable again.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. TwoWheels
    Member

    Being a Yankee, I can comment with fair authority about all of the above, and other things as well. A paucity of knowledge in a subject never lets a good American stay quiet.

    That said, you're talking about trying to cover a *lot* of territory in not much time. Just getting across New York will take a week and change, and then you've got about a 1,500 mile ride to get to anyplace civilized in Florida. If there is such a thing. Of course, by going to Florida, you can cross New York City off your list, because Florida is where New York goes to retire. Cycling-wise, it's just like NYC except the drivers are older and blind. Not that you can really tell the difference, to be honest.

    Chicago has nice cycling and great blues. There's a couple of really nice jazz-and-ribs joints in Chicago, if you decide to visit there, let me know, and I'll clue you in. Chicago is billiard-table flat, btw, which is nice when you're from Edinburgh.

    As far as getting around, forget the train. Trains are largely useless in the U.S., and they only go to places you don't want to be. They'll also give you a hard time about the bikes. Many Amtrak trains refuse to take bikes, but you'll never know for sure, because it's up to the conductor. Tell him it's a personal mobility device, threaten an ADA lawsuit and you might squeeze by, but don't count on it.

    So to get from A to a distant B, either fly or rent a car and drive. And when looking at maps, remember, it's freakin' big. Put it this way: The state I grew up in, Ohio, is 14,000 square miles larger than the entire country of Scotland. And Ohio is only one of 50 states. You could fit 3 Scotlands in the state of Colorado,and still have room for a hamburger and fries.

    In terms of familiarity, New England--particularly the mountains of New Hampshire -- will probably seem the most familiar to the Scottish visitor. If you can, head out west. See the Rockies, the Grand Canyon, the Black Hills and the Badlands. There ain't nothing like that in the old country, I can guarantee it. And the riding will be insanely fun.

    Also, be aware that carrying concealed weapons (handguns) is perfectly legal and socially acceptable in many states, so pick your fights wisely, although in most cases, the cracker who pulls the gun on you will shoot himself in the ankle long before any harm befalls you.

    Having said all that, please do come. You will find that Americans, for the most part, are loud, fun, outgoing, friendly and large. And a crapload of us are descended from Scots (Scots were actually the largest ethnic group to emigrate here until the vast wave of immigrants came up from the south. So now you have folks with names like Juan McDougall and Ian Ramirez. It's another one of the beauties of this country, it really is a huge melting pot).

    Any questions, shoot me a PM. I'll answer anything, and I'll probably tell you if I'm making it up.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    “Bikes have always been a huge part of Chicago, from Schwinn to the current fixed gear craze. It’s an easy city to ride a bike, and cycling has impacted the culture in Chicago significantly."

    http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/band-turns-to-bikes-to-launch-new-album/011684

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    OT And a crapload of us are descended from Scots (Scots were actually the largest ethnic group to emigrate here until the vast wave of immigrants came up from the south.

    Which is why I can't explain why my kids - whose ancestors emigrated on various ships from Mayflower to early 20th c. - have not a drop of scottish blood identifiable anywhere!

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  10. TwoWheels
    Member

    SRD: Which is why I can't explain why my kids - whose ancestors emigrated on various ships from Mayflower to early 20th c. - have not a drop of scottish blood identifiable anywhere!

    Despite my deep affection for Scotland, I may not either. Although I understand there may have been points in time when you couldn't walk down the street in Edinburgh without tripping over someone with my surname, I haven't been able to trace my ancestry back there.

    My father always said I was the descendant of Welsh pig farmers and English horse thieves, which at least puts me in good company, I figure. In fact, the "English horse thieves" part pretty well explains how my family ended up on the other side of the Atlantic.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. chdot
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