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  1. Frenchy
    Member

    No, Angry Impatient Driver, I won't cycle in the cycle lane if there are cars parked in it.

    Schools are definitely back now.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. jdanielp
    Member

    It is still satisfyingly quiet in the vicinity of George Watson's, yet I was overtaken when doing close to 20 mph on Myreside Road again this morning.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. davidsonsdave
    Member

    @Frenchy I hadn't realised that the presence of "TURN LEFT" along with the arrow made it mandatory but it seems so. The right turn from Infirmary street by Catering Equipment Repairs and Maintenance Ltd (SM18 WVN) and the straight-on by a PHC (WV09 DOJ licence 653) yesterday during the same lights phase shows how well this rule is followed.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. ejstubbs
    Member

    Regardless of what's written on the road there, Streetview indicates that there is a blue "left turn only" sign by the stop line and a "no right turn" sign on the traffic light. So both drivers committed the TS50 "failure to comply with a traffic sign" offence, which is worth three points and usually a £60 fine I believe.

    (My understanding is that Frenchy is correct, though: if there's words along with the arrow then it's mandatory.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    Few pages back:

    Had a wee argument with someone the other day when I asked them to put their phone away.

    Saw the same person driving again today. Still texting whilst driving. Gave me a "What‽" shrug when I caught their eye.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. NiallA
    Member

    Have just seen probably the most entitled bit of driving I have ever encountered. A white Land Rover was driven from the other side of the road on to the pavement in front of me as I walked to a bus stop. The driver stops next to the post box outside the post office, leans out of his window (very slightly - he was RIGHT NEXT to the box), posts a letter and then drives back on to his side of the road.

    Still shaking my head about it....

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Frenchy
    Member

    Ooof.

    I know someone who once got a taxi from one side of George St to the other (not one end of George St to the other).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. HankChief
    Member

    Was bought to you by the student driver of livered learner car who was driving off of the pavement outside Maybury's run&become.

    I raised this with the instructor (who was then stuck in traffic) who said he had parked there so as not to block anyone in and that he didn't think it impacted me.

    He had used a dropped kerb to diagonally mount a pavement - I indicated that normalising pavement parking impacts all of us...

    From their website, it is his own company with a single car, so I'm not sure it is worth reporting anywhere but does just so show ingrained the entitlement to park on pavements is. Very sad.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. ih
    Member

    A propos of HankChief's pavement parking and pavement driving post, I spotted this on the BBC website - fined for parking in your own driveway:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-45225045

    I fear that pavement parking is now so normalised that most drivers don't even notice they do it, and I think we've basically lost the argument, but huge chapeau to HC for raising it with the instructor.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Was outside the Museum of Scotland today and at the bus stop, one of the tour buses mounted the kerb then bumped down - presumably to park out of the way of scheduled services. Just as well it wasn't in the heart of an area hosting an international festival with thousands of visitors (and locals) on foot, eh?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. SRD
    Moderator

    3 incidents between canal and zigzags

    1. Harrison rd -- oncoming driver tries to avoid speed cushions and takes centre /left lane; obviously not seeing me (despite lights in full day light) until last minute, swerves back.

    2 + 3 . driver in SUV fog same direction as me cuts me up coming into lights at junction. i ride even more aggressively rest of way and she gives me good berth but then trying to get past me, nearly takes out another rider signalling to turn onto pavement at bridge so as to access russell rd (all three of us middle aged ladies).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. deckard112
    Member

    Descending from Inverkeithing to Ferrytoll, 30mph speed limit, I'm holding 30mph taking primary. Get to section with the 'sliproad' onto the new cycle path (which I love btw!), young female driver passes me window down shouting I should have been in the cycle lane (the one which was blocked by several cars and unusable in other parts). One assumes the speed limit wasn't high enough for her, I clearly delayed her desire to join the queuing traffic for QRB by several seconds.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. paddyirish
    Member

    @deckard112- yep definitely take primary there- the potholes, drain covers and parked cars mean that nothing else is safe. I believe that stretch of road is a 20 anyway? Potholes need action before winter- I feel a filethathole job coming on...

    +1 for the new ramp- it is superb. Only I have come across 3 different muppets using it as a parking place. Needs some double yellow lines.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. Frenchy
    Member

    Hope St is 30mph between the roundabout car park and Ferrytoll.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. wingpig
    Member

    LA Travel coach SV61 HDX, whose driver appeared to be talking into his headset microphone going from South Charlotte Street and round the square.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. Frenchy
    Member

    Weel-kent politician decided to overtake parked cars on their side of the road, forcing the oncoming cyclist to stop, then had the nerve to give a thank you wave.

    Won't be voting for them again...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. acsimpson
    Member

    @Frenchy, care to name and shame so that others know not to bother voting for them either?

    @Hankchief. Would it be worth your time to leave a review somewhere like trustpilot, or even on google. It might stop some caring parents from unwittingly having their teenagers taught to break the rules.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. ejstubbs
    Member

    @HankChief: From their website, it is his own company with a single car, so I'm not sure it is worth reporting anywhere

    Driving Instructors have to be registered by the DVSA. There's a three-part test they have to pass to be able to call themselves an Approved Driving Instructor (ADI) and they're not allowed to charge for lessons without the qualification and registration. The ADI Registrar deals with all this. It might be worth reporting this instructor to the Registrar in the first instance. They're unlikely to have their registration revoked for a single incident like this but it might go on their record and they might even get a formal warning.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/whats-involved-in-being-a-driving-instructor/approved-driving-instructor-adi-register-guide

    When you’re giving driving lessons, you’re responsible for your own safety, that of your pupil and other road users.

    You have to show a:

    • high regard for all aspects of road safety
    • high standard of driving and instructional ability
    • professional approach to your customers
    • responsible attitude to your pupils and profession

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. Frenchy
    Member

    care to name and shame so that others know not to bother voting for them either?

    Not after I've admitted to voting for them in the past ;)

    Suffice to say, I don't think they'll be getting elected again soon anyway.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. wingpig
    Member

    The driver of long black car YX61 HGU, which chugged menacingly behind me at the parliament ped crossing then brrrrmed aggressively past (cutting in far too early) just after I had passed that utility access cover that I usually try to stay on the right of. Their windows were down because of the rain so they probably didn't hear me addressing them as they waited behind the car in front of me to turn right at the roundabout.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. dougal
    Member

    Just got a message from home that a Broughton Removals lorry smashed into a VW Golf on Leith Walk and that lorry driver had to be hailed to stop. Car reportedly well-crumpled.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Please tell me the Golf was double parked at the time ;)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. dougal
    Member

    Unlikely, my Reporter At The Scene says there was a lady in the car. Police are there right now, near Storries so maybe at Dalmeny Junction? Sounds grim.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. ARobComp
    Member

    Guy driving down Woodfield Road to the junction with Colinton Road at Colinton Village. I was to the right of primary approaching a blind corner because there were lots of parked cars narrowing the road and some people are stupid enough to try and pass. Didn't phase guy in rover (I think) with numberplate "XXXX DAD".

    He just moved all the way into the other lane and came around the blind corner on the wrong side of the road. I slowed quickly to avoid the squish if there was anything coming the other way. Absolutely unbelievable.

    Thankfully the bus which collects children with additional needs from the area for their school run was about another 100m down the road. That could have been horrible.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. 531
    Member

    what is it about August?

    I feel like I will be so lucky if I survive it.

    Everyday another scary incident and yesterday a 2for1. Corner of grange rd and causewayside. private hire car pinching me to the gutter, but across the street I am watching a woman scream at a driver who was doing the very same thing to her! The thing is she had a 2 year old in a baby seat on the back, neither had helmets. I was torn between applauding the mom's bravery (and that of the tot) and reporting her to social services.

    and incidentally, how are we supposed to safely turn right heading across traffic at that intersection? Virtually impossible. The only safe thing is to get in position and dive in front of the oncoming traffic whe the light changes.

    Edinburgh is challenging for 11 months and a war zone for one.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. algo
    Member

    @531 I sympathise about turning right on any junction like that in fact, but yes it's often a problem - indeed I have posted about that very junction before. Sometimes if I get a bad vibe when I have a passenger I get off and walk over at the pedestrian phase - discretion being the better part of valour.

    However - let's not demonise a mother for her transport or attire choices. If you react like that in this instance, then you'd be constantly aghast in the Netherlands.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. neddie
    Member

    It makes me so happy to see kids being transported without helmets. It feels... civilised...

    And also serves to show the absurdity of allowing enormous endangering motorised carriages on to our city streets.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. 531
    Member

    @algo - my sympathies definitely with the mom. My point is that it felt like Beirut in the 1980s out there the other day and it is hard to watch tiny tots being thrust into a pitched battle. BTW for full disclosure I didn't have a helmet either.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. the canuck
    Member

    in general, this city needs a hell of a lot more right turn signals, and causewayside would be a great place for several of them. (i cycle down that road because it's quiet when i'm on it, but the high number of designated parking spaces interrupting the bike lane or just after junctions is terrifying.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    The van driver who decided to overtake me on the entrance to the top roundabout on Queen's Drive, then sped down the road at 30 mph+ (it's a 20 limit) only to get stuck behind the traffic queueing for the Holyrood Gait roundabout. I overtook him (with 2-3 cars in front of him before the roundabout), he blasted the horn at me, so I gave him the finger, which prompted him to chase me to my work (private, security controlled) car park. I just waved to him as the shutters came down.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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