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11011. chdot
       Admin

       “

       Garage manager Leslie Amos drunkenly crashed into five cars including a Porsche 911 Black Edition after going to rescue his unruly son Ryan Amos, 22. Ryan Amos got out of the badly damaged car and attacked two innocent passers-by who had tried to intervene to stop the drunken post-pub rampage.

       …

       Solicitor Danielle Stringer, for the father, said: "He works for Peter Vardy where he is the body shop manager. This incident started at the Stag Inn

       “

       https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/scottish-dad-son-smash-five-27024752?

       Posted 2 years ago #

11012. chdot
       Admin

       “

       A horror crash left an Edinburgh motorcyclist with so many broken bones that x-rays depicted ‘a packet of crisps.’

       Charlie Phillips was left in a critical condition after a car pulled out in front of him as he was travelling along Ferry Road on May 10. The 32-year-old suffered serious injuries after colliding with the rear passenger door which then catapulted him 30 feet before landing on the pavement. His injuries included ‘a smashed pelvis, broken legs, ribs, chest bone, and a shattered arm’.

       “

       https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-biker-breaks-almost-all-his-bones-after-horror-crash-which-catapulted-him-30ft-down-the-street-4164382?itm_source=parsely-api

       Posted 2 years ago #

11013. chdot
       Admin

       “

       A multimillionaire businessman has been hit with one of the world’s highest speeding fines – €121,000 (£104,000) – for driving 30km/h (18.6mph) over the limit in Finland, where tickets are calculated as a percentage of the offender’s income.

       “

       https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/06/finnish-businessman-hit-with-121000-speeding-fine

       Posted 2 years ago #

11014. neddie
       Member

       a civilised nation, clearly

       Posted 2 years ago #

11015. ejstubbs
       Member

       The UK has income-based fines for speeding offences too. If you plead not guilty to the FPN (i.e. decline to pay the fixed penalty) the offence goes to court, and if you lose then you can be fined up to 175% of your weekly income, depending on the severity of the offence. However the maximum fine is capped at £1000, or £2500 if on a motorway (which seems a little odd to me, since motorways are generally accepted to be the safest roads, but there you go).

       Sources:
       https://www.gov.uk/speeding-penalties
       https://www.evo.co.uk/advice/18773/uk-speeding-fines-2023-what-are-the-latest-penalties-for-drivers

       Posted 2 years ago #

11016. Arellcat
       Moderator

       How it started:

       "
       Cllr. Finlay McFarlane
       @FinlayMcF
       Honestly cannot believe what I have just witnessed. I spoke to the driver who shouted in my face and told me he had ‘no other option’ ‘he’d just be five minutes’ and it ‘wasn’t dangerous at all’.

       “Coach of the Year 2014’. Mental. Will be writing to the hotel & operator.
       "

       How it's going (via EEN and FB):

       "'Someone could have been very seriously hurt' But they weren’t. Hardly news!"

       "Naebody was hurt tho.."

       "Show me how many people have been killed by parked cars"

       "How is a stationary bus dangerous"

       "Weight up the odds. The bus driver did and he chose correctly"

       Posted 2 years ago #

11017. Murun Buchstansangur
       Member

       " I spoke to the driver who shouted in my face and told me he had ‘no other option’ ‘he’d just be five minutes’ and it ‘wasn’t dangerous at all’."

       Wow. If the driver was German (like the bus registration), he should naturalise here, he'd fit right in. Even got the excuses down pat.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11018. ejstubbs
       Member

       Everyone seems to be getting het up about the coach being "parked" on the pavement but nobody (not even the SNP councillor, as far as has been reported) seems to have pointed out that driving on the footway is illegal.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11019. Frenchy
       Member

       @ejstubbs - Indeed. Also, unlike for cars, simply being parked on the pavement is already illegal if the vehicle weighs over 7.5 tonnes, which I'm fairly sure that bus will.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11020. pringlis
       Member

       @Frenchy: annoyingly I think the second half of that rule gives an exception if the driver remains with the vehicle while it's unloading.

       "Vehicles with a maximum laden weight of over 7.5 tonnes (including any trailer) MUST NOT be parked on a verge, pavement or any land situated between carriageways, without police permission. The only exception is when parking is essential for loading and unloading, in which case the vehicle MUST NOT be left unattended."

       Posted 2 years ago #

11021. chdot
       Admin

       “

       Police slam FORTY selfish drivers who put fellow M6 motorists 'in danger' after crashes

       “

       https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-m6-crashes-drivers-slam-27022968

       Posted 2 years ago #

11022. edinburgh87
       Member

       As a regular user of Gilmerton Rd I'm amazed this is even possible:

       https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-street-closed-after-car-27093169

       Posted 2 years ago #

11023. Frenchy
       Member

       I walked past as the blue car was being towed away, and couldn't work out what had happened.

       Must have rolled very easily.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11024. chdot
       Admin

       https://news.stv.tv/west-central/man-arrested-as-cyclist-dies-following-collision-with-van-in-kirkintilloch

       Posted 2 years ago #

11025. chdot
       Admin

       https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/dundee/4469605/boy-14-hurt-dundee-hit-run/

       Posted 2 years ago #

11026. the canuck
       Member

       The very important dude in the very expensive SUV who cut across me on South Bridge because he couldn't wait 3 seconds for me to go straight through the junction.

       Glad I got new brakes this winter. I hit them so hard, I pulled a previously-injured tendon in my leg. He missed me by inches, I'm still shocked I didn't just fall off from the stop.

       Also glad no one was behind me, because they wouldn't have had time to stop.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11027. chdot
       Admin

       Sympathy.

       Did NB this morning.

       Never much fun especially at the moment.

       Not sure if the sun is reducing patience - though presume expensive cars are well air conditioned…

       No big dramas today, just the usual -

       Vehicles in (fading) ASL boxes - taxis/PHs etc.

       Cars ‘drifting’ into all too narrow bike lanes. Of course the Forrest Rd - G4 Bridge section is just dreadful, but don’t know if the Audi/BMW thing did it deliberately or not.

       On Broughton Street I saw a small gap between the stationary line of traffic by the empty bike lane and a car anxious to join when the vehicles started moving.

       Clearly ‘a risk’. Traffic wasn’t about to move - I could see well ahead - but I WAS surprised that the car on my left started edging further to the right.

       Pretty sure it wasn’t deliberately ‘against’ me. Pretty sure she hadn’t seen me (large and slow) at all. Hope she appreciated my stately progress up the hill.

       Nearing the top I watched a car slowly remove all the space by the kerb. It was fine though as its driver left lots of room on the right.

       I passed with a gesture of exasperation…

       Posted 2 years ago #

11028. ejstubbs
       Member

       Yesterday rather than today, but it was still pretty rubbish: sitting on the number 4 bus heading home, I heard a car horn being sounded loudly and insistently, approaching from the bus's rear. Looking out of the window I observed a private hire vehicle (an Ionic I think) westbound on Shandwick Place turning right into Stafford Street in what might charitably* be described as "a bit of a hurry" (bearing in mind that this whole area is a 20mph limit, AFAIK), with pedestrians crossing the side street actually having to run to the pavement in order to avoid being mown down.

       Unfortunately the car was away and gone before I thought to get its number.

       * Though why one should feel charitable towards such a selfishly dangerous driver I'm not sure.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11029. Frenchy
       Member

       HGV driver tailgating a cyclist along Liberton Road (less than 1 second gap).

       Would have been bad enough even if they'd been looking out the windscreen rather than at their phone.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11030. Frenchy
       Member

       Two rubbish PHV drivers in the city centre today.

       Passed far too closely, with a completely empty oncoming lane, as I was cycling at 19mph up South Clerk Street. Obviously I still reached Chambers Street before them (where our routes diverged).

       Then as I was heading from George IV Bridge to Bank Street, a driver turned right from Bank Street into the Lawnmarket, despite me already being in the junction. Hope the tourists enjoyed my language.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11031. chdot
       Admin

       “
       Truck driver arrested over fatal Rebellin crash Police in Germany have arrested a truck driver accused over the crash in Italy last year that killed professional cyclist Davide Rebellin, Italian prosecutors said on Saturday.

       Wolfgang Rieke is accused of road homicide and leaving the scene of a crash, and was arrested on Thursday in Münster on a European arrest warrant. Rebellin, one of cycling’s longest-serving professionals, was killed on 30 November during a training run near the northern Italian town of Montebello Vicentino.

       “

       https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jun/17/tour-de-suisse-cycling-gino-mader-death-bahrain-victorious

       Posted 2 years ago #

11032. Stickman
       Member

       Major road closure on the M8 in Glasgow this evening. I was in the inside lane and watched as streams of people drove up the hard shoulder. They were blocking emergency vehicles trying to get through. I heard one paramedic shouting at someone for stopping him getting past.

       Hope the traffic cops have video of it and they all get notices in the mail.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11033. neddie
       Member

       Heard on the radio (Forth One) this morning during the traffic bulletin:

       "Yeah, the traffic around Craigleith is a nightmare, all those road works and people are trying to divert via Telford and even Murrayfield... and that's not working because of the road works there as well and... there's literally nothing else you can do"

       "Nothing else", like take the bus, train, walk, cycle, work from home, park-and-ride, don't make that journey to pick up a bacon roll... literally nothing

       Posted 2 years ago #

11034. LaidBack
       Member

       https://www.thenational.scot/news/23598228.labour-press-conference-descends-farce-media-bus-gets-lost/?ref=fbm

       Was meant to be a hydrogen bus. Apparently the diesel replacement had to do three point turn on Ferry Road but maybe exagerated. I mean buses and all political parties have history! :-)

       Posted 2 years ago #

11035. chdot
       Admin

       https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/19/outcry-in-birmingham-after-four-cyclists-and-pedestrians-die-in-a-month

       Posted 2 years ago #

11036. chdot
       Admin

       https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/east-mayfield-crash-edinburgh-police-block-off-city-street-after-crash-involving-parked-car-4199746

       Posted 2 years ago #

11037. Murun Buchstansangur
       Member

       Whatever was on their phone must have been really good

       https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-police-race-rush-hour-27231025

       Posted 2 years ago #

11038. acsimpson
       Member

       At least until they took out the cabinet and their wifi stopped working.

       Posted 2 years ago #

11039. wishicouldgofaster
       Member

       There seems to be a lot of really stupid crashes recently. Not surprising given the amount of mobile phone use from drivers these days!

       Posted 2 years ago #

11040. gembo
       Member

       Had taxi driver all way through Cowgate and grass market. tonight. Private hire white vehicle. Kept stop starting.

       Finally looked In His window, scrolling on the phone.

       Same route silver private hire, driver seems stoned.

       Posted 2 years ago #

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