paul_edie:
@CyclingEdin Have taken up the Russell Rd issue with TIE. Will get back to you when I hear from them.
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/paul_edie/status/119763521721470976
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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Infrastructure
Russell Road to shut(?)
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Posted 13 years ago #
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What a difference a couple of days make...
Presume it'll change again - otherwise no point in doing this -
This hasn't though -
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I cycled along the Russell Road diversion as signed above(in both directions) on Saturday and found it okay - apart from the stupid steep path access with huge kerb. Mind you this was early on Saturday morning with hardly any traffic. Strangely, when you reach Russell Road the "bike ->" signs stop and you get only pedestrian ones. It was still better than I was expecting though since there actually were signs. Is it bad that I was thinking there wouldn't be?
Posted 13 years ago # -
@min
The pedestrian signs were a later addition, as was the bit of tarmac (ramp), that wasn't needed yesterday.
Did you go (N-S) over the bridge or come down the steep twisty path (as signed) and cross the main road?
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I came down the steep twisty path. I walked back up it though..
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"I walked back up it though"
Yesterday I saw two women about to get off their bikes to get up the kerb and push up the slope.
I told them that next entrance was just up the road and a lot easier.
They took my advice.
I can't stand there all day...
Posted 13 years ago # -
Confused looking cyclist cycling in the wrong bus lane on W Coates (i.e. right hand side of road) after turning right out of Roseburn Street and at the Roseburn Bar.
Gave me a sheepish look along the lines of "yes I know I shouldn't be doing this, but I'm doing it anyway".
Second cyclist of the morning cycling on the wrong side of the road. Wouldn't have been smiling so much if I had been the Citylink 900 bus that tailgated me along Corstorphine Road.
Posted 13 years ago # -
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west_team:@CyclingEdin CEC Tram Team meeting today to discuss improvements to signage for cyclists. Contact team at info@tramsforedinburgh.com. Jemma
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/west_team/status/121902700030996482
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west_team @west_team replied to you:
west_team west_team
@CyclingEdin Thanks, if you raise this directly with CEC Tram Team they can respond as they deal with city wide issues
Oct 06, 2:28 PM via web
In reply to…CyclingEdin Cycling Edinburgh
@west_team problems aren't just Russell Road. Hope @EdinburghTrams will take a look at citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.… too #cycling #walking #Edinburgh
Oct 06, 12:25 PM via webPosted 13 years ago # -
Probably for the workmen. There's a lockable gate at the bottom (opens outwards, onto the pavement - beware ...).
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I seem to remember that new steps were part of the design for this part of the tram route, at least for the tram route to Crewe Toll. The switchback onto the Roseburn path was (is?) meant to be reconstructed as a single north-facing incline.
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The ramp that appeared at the end of last week is currently not in use - the pavement route is fairly clear.
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As rain was starting to come down, I didn't take a photo, however a FOREST of printed-and-put-in-plastic-sleeves "cyclists dismount" signs appeared along the whole bit of diverted route between this morning and this afternoon.
Confusion caused. I rode through slowly behind someone pushing. Woman this morning moaned at me for cycling through. "The signs say dismount" said she. "Yes, they do say that, don't they" said I.
For the record, the big, main metal signs at either end of the diversion continue to say "PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS ONLY". And to reiterate the Tram's own notice on this closure "Pedestrian/ cycle access maintained in both directions along Russell Road"
The route is no narrower, longer, or otherwise different to any of the various guises it has been in over the last year or whatever, so I can't see any reason why suddenly it is no longer appropriate to cycle.
Emails of complaint to be sent.
Posted 12 years ago # -
Those notices look like computer print-outs and say "cyclists please dismount". They've got no legal force whatsoever. I guess there's been an issue with the path being so narrow and fiddly at the moment, it only takes one inconsiderate or thoughtless person... notices are probably covering the behind of someone-or-another...
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Or simply guerrilla action from a disgruntled pedestrian?
Robert
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"it only takes one inconsiderate or thoughtless person."
This is so true. One complaint against a cyclist brings Police Action and immediate notices for everyone to Stop Cycling. Meanwhile you can complain all you like about dangerous drivers, no-one gives a toss.
Posted 12 years ago # -
26 June 2012
To - Edinburgh Trams project
CC - Councilor Lesley Hinds, Transport ConvenorI would like to complain about the printed and laminated "cyclists dismount" signs that are being put up along the side of the tram works at Russell Road in recent days. If this route is now closed to cyclists, the appropriate signage should be in place. "Official" dismount signs are always only advisory - recognised no cycling signs (red ring with bike in it) should be in place in accordance with relevant legislation. I hope you will agree that misleading, confusing paper signs which carry no official merit and have been knocked up on the office printer do not constitute the proper procedures for closing a key cycling route.
However contrary to these signs and to the best of my knowledge, this route is not actually closed to cyclists. Indeed, the main metal signs at either end of the diversion clearly say "Pedestrians and Cyclists Only". It is my understanding (from published plans for the Russell Road closure - http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/1008-TW-087-Russell-Road-closure.pdf ) that the Tram project committed to maintaining access along Russell Road for pedestrians AND cyclists, in both directions. This was in recognition of the fact it is a key route and there is a lack of any suitable, cycle-friendly alternatives to get between Dalry / East Gorgie and the main cycling path network in the North and West of Edinburgh.
Attempting to oblige cyclists to dismount using the incorrect signs is not really a suitable way to maintain access for cycling. The route has been closed to traffic and open to pedestrians and cyclists for 9 months now and yet the paper signs have only appeared recently. It has not suddenly become narrower than it has been (apart from when workmen leave hazards like barriers and cones across the route) so I fail to see why these paper signs have now appeared. In fact there appears to be so much room on the pavement that the workmen have taking to parking their vehicles on it and using it to store spare signs, cones, barriers etc. Perhaps removing these would create a bit more space?
If it has recently been decided that the route is no longer suitable for cycling then why has this not been clearly and properly implemented? I really don't think there's any reason why this should be the case - apart from the very short section of the route underneath where the bridge is being constructed (about 5 metres in length) there is still plenty of road available for widening the current path. Indeed on occasion the path has been temporarily widened when there have been football matches at Tynecastle, to accommodate the increased footfall. Currently it is fenced off to create a van park for contractors vehicles, however I hardly think this should be the priority for use of the space when it is so constricted. There is plenty of space on the road round the corner or on the other side of the railway bridge for vehicles to be parked.
Finally, if the route has been closed and that is that, I wonder if you could suggest a suitable cycle-friendly alternative to transit between Roseburn / Corstorphine / Murrayfield / the Water of Leith Path at Roseburn / the North Edinburgh Path Network and Gorgie / Dalry / Fountainbridge / the Canal towpath, as without some significant diversions there really isn't one.
Regards,
Posted 12 years ago # -
Those laminated signs have gone :-) and the new bridge appears to be in place. There was a Very Large Crane in the closed part of the road when I went past yesterday. There's a bit more access space at the Gorgie Road end under the bridge at the moment.
A couple of times recently I've seen cars come from the Gorgie Road end, and do the whole "Oh, look, they really do mean Road Closed, don't they" thing and turn around and go away. You would have thought that anyone likely to use that road would know it was really, really closed by now...
Posted 12 years ago # -
I never did get a further response from either Lesley Hinds or the Trambles department.
Posted 12 years ago # -
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Stuart Threlfall (@snowcycleuk)13/07/2012 23:32
@@AndrewDBurns @cameronrose @Edinburgh_CC Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & RTA 1988 sect 34 you must not drive on the pavement. Russell Rd disgrace.
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Saw a sign up today: Russell Road to close for 6 months from 19th January 2015, for Bridge repair works.
Posted 9 years ago # -
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One hopes it is the railway bridge and not the tram bridge. The latter would be somewhat embarrassing...Posted 9 years ago # -
Well I hope either they maintain a through route for cyclists/pedestrians or signpost a proper diversion. There really isn't an obvious alternative route here.
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There is the "down the side of sainsbury's to Gorgie" route but it's not a great nor easy one.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Russell Road to close for 6 months
That's great news, as long as they keep it open for peds & bikes
Posted 9 years ago # -
Possibly it isn't the railway bridge. I live round there and recently got a letter from Network Rail saying there was going to be some night work in January to paint the railway bridge. Think this was slated to take a week or so, not 6 months. I don't recall anything about a road closure, though I will have another look tonight.
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