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Started 13 years ago by custard
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custard
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okay them
crappy weather is coming and im thinking aour puting'proper' guards on the Boardman Hybred
seems SKS are the brand most recommended?
not really bothered about removing them so permanents good
the bike has 700c 28mm tyres

if looking at SKS,whats the difference in the different types

eg
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=25793

vs

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=33154

also the all important colours ;)

white bike with black guards or go proud and go white?

cheers

Posted 13 years ago #
wee folding bike
Member

You might want to fit a flap on the front one.

They're both listed as chromoplastic and have breakaway front stays. Chromoplastics are plastic/metal laminates. They are flexible and strong. Eventually salt causes the end to delaminate but that will take years. Breakaway stays are a safety feature. Sometimes things get stuck between mudguards and front wheel. These stays allow the mudguards to come free instead of locking up the wheel.

Have you got brazeons for them to screw onto?

Posted 13 years ago #
ruggtomcat
Member

SKS are the nuts.

Posted 13 years ago #
wingpig
Member

My last set of Raceblades crease-snapped beneath where the lower stay held the front one after eight months' use, but I'd still buy them again. The semi-permanent model wouldn't have this issue.

Posted 13 years ago #
Morningsider
Member

Been using SKS mudguards on 24mm tyres for about 5 years - they still look pretty much brand new when I get round to cleaning them. You will wonder how you rode with clip-ons once you get them - no more badger stripe up the back.

While the guards are pretty much indestructible, my reflector fell off with the gentlest bump, which seems to be a pretty common with these. I wouldn't let that put you off though as they are great.

Posted 13 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

Can only compliment the SKS chromoplastics. There is a definite "kink" in their profile compared to bluemels (or my Planet Bike yellow ones) which I've found helps to stop water leaking around the sides better. A flap on front is good. My older P35 has one, but not the newer one. The older ones come with a built in red reflector, new ones don't. I suppose you add your own.

I think you can buy both as aftermarket accessories. Should you need it you can also buy the stays kit again.

They are a bit fiddly to install at first, but once they are on they stay true and will take a bit of punishment and you can get them to tuck pretty close into the wheel without rubbing. Just watch if you have a forward sloping dropout to leave enough clearance for removing the rear wheel.

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

What the others said :-)
I have SKS on three of my four bikes (the mtb has crudcatchers) and I wouldn't have a "working" bike without them.
The only flaw I've found is that on very wet roads the water seems to spill round the front 'guard where the bracket is, I'm told some continental mudguards have the bracket on the outside to avoid just this.
That said, it's a relatively minor issue and you'll still be 90% drier than a bike without 'guards.

It amazes me that I still see people commuting in this country with no mudguards, though I am heartened by the number of commuting mtb's(and even BSO's!) I see with road treads and full guards, these are people who will keep on biking, and that is a "good thing" :-)

Addendum- if you get a set without a reflector just buy some retro-reflective red stick on tape. Very effective, nice and cheap and very hard to break ;-)

Posted 13 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

I've seen someone with holographic retro-reflective tape on the rear, also very eye-catching (if somewhat non-legal issue)

Posted 13 years ago #
custard
Member

@ wee folding bike
I seem to have the mounts front & rear
its the 2 small mounts either side like small disc brake mounts,yeah?

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_777739_langId_-1_categoryId_165534

can zoom in on this

as for running without guards
I have been and in those heavy downpours its just not fun
I have even avoided going home via the innocent tunnel due to the water in the tunnel
now white or black.........

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

Black, next to black wheels they wont be obvious unless you look closely, also need less cleaning ;-)

Posted 13 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

its the 2 small mounts either side like small disc brake mounts,yeah?

yep.

I'd personally go for black on that bike (the others are silver with a white stripe)

One minor detail with the chromoplastics is that both front and rear rely on the bolts where a caliper rim brake would normally be found as attachment points. I assume a disc-brake fork also has this hole / bolt. It looks like from photos that the seat stays on the Boardman Hyprid Comp do not. It also looks like the seat stays hug the rear wheel very close - you might want to test fit in the shop as clearance looks very tight there.

You might need to go for something like Crud Road Race guards to get a full guard in that space.

Posted 13 years ago #
custard
Member

I has the centre holes front and rear
I would say theres 1cm either side of the tyre at the tightest part of the rear stays
too tight?

Posted 13 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

ah OK I may have seen photo of slightly different Boardman.

1cm will be fine, so long as total clearance between stays is 35mm (P35, as name suggests, is that wide). It will happily take a non-knobbly 700x28 tyre. Vertical clearance from tyre to bolt hole can be anywhere from about 7mm up to 18mm I would estimate.

Posted 13 years ago #
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Posted 13 years ago #
wee folding bike
Member

Number 2 son's bike now has mudguards from EBC. They work fine but it might have been nice it they included the M5 bolts for fitting to the frame.

He uses it for school on Thursdays.

Posted 13 years ago #
Roibeard
Member

I'd suggest going for the slighter more expensive SKS model with V struts rather than the model with both struts running parallel to the same point on the mudguard.

I had the cheaper version fitted in error by the Bike to Work supplier and (unsurprisingly) it isn't quite as rigid as the V strut version. Not irritating enough to be bothered swopping it out, but irritating enough that I'd consider the extra cost well spent!

Robert

Posted 13 years ago #
custard
Member

well finally got around to fitting these
went for the chromoplastics in black

once itted they look really good quality
noce solid fit
instructions are very poor though.
would be fine now having fitted a set but for the non tech minded people It might be a job for your LBS

Posted 13 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

yes you need about 4 sets of hands to put the chromoplastics together!

Posted 13 years ago #
jdanielp
Member

Just after turning right from Gilmore Place onto Lower Gilmore Place this morning, I head a strange 'rubbing' noise coming from my bike so stopped to take a look. It became apparent that my plastic rear mudguard had sheered through in the vicinity of the higher of the two (?) seat tube mounting points. I wasted about ten minutes trying to strap it up before deciding to remove it completely and left the seemingly secure remaining section attached for now, but will remove it this evening. I clearly now need to source a replacement... Is SKS still the best option?

Posted 6 years ago #
amir
Member

For road bike or mtb?
For road bike, I prefer tortec over sks. They last longer in my experience. I always had problems with the bridge with sks

Posted 6 years ago #
jdanielp
Member

Hybrid. I could collect an SKS Hybrid Mudguard Set - 700c x 35-45c from Evans today...

Posted 6 years ago #
jdanielp
Member

I hastily ordered the SKS Hybrid Mudguard Set which then failed to arrive for a same day collection at Evans so I then took the time to email Charge and received a useful reply recommending the SKS Bluemels 45 mm instead which I have now ordered from Evans (and is £5 cheaper). I put in a cancellation request for the original order. Here's hoping that I have the correct set to collect and fit by the weekend. In the meantime, I am using an Ass Saver which has slotted in quite neatly to the top of my pannier rack where it will hopefully provide a little more protection than the usual under-seat mounting.

Posted 6 years ago #
acsimpson
Member

Is SKS still the best option?

Depends how stylish you want:

http://www.woodguards.co.uk

Posted 6 years ago #
Ed1
Member

fitted my front winter marathon last night. There was interference With the country explorers mud guard put an sks cromo plastic on but could only attach on 1 side as disc brakes. It works but is a bit shakey. Is there a way to fit sks cromo plastic on both sides with disc brakes?

Posted 5 years ago #
davidsonsdave
Member

@Ed1 You basically need a longer bolt to hold the stays further away on the side with the disc brake. I used a longer bolt along with some spare parts of a V-brake (I think) over the top but there are other ways to do it such as this.

I will try to remember to take a picture tonight.

Posted 5 years ago #
Arellcat
Moderator

For spacers, use the knurled nuts from a Presta valve.

Posted 5 years ago #
unhurt
Member

knurled nuts

This is a lovely sounding pair (of words).

Posted 5 years ago #
Frenchy
Member

This is a lovely sounding pair (of words).

That might be, er, personal anatomy-dependent.

Posted 5 years ago #
acsimpson
Member

Depending on the exact anatomy (of the bike) you can make a custom stay from a coat hanger and mould it round the caliper. Unfortunately The SKS stay was not quite long enough to get round the caliper and still reach the guard.

Having done this when I had cable discs but discovered after upgrading to Hy/Rds that the original stay fitted with minimal bending.

If you are bending a coat hanger or similar solutions though you need to be aware of the risk of having fixed front mudgaurds though: https://www.cyclinguk.org/article/technical-guide/mudguard-safety

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(I'm not sure if this rider had mudguards but the effect is the same.)

Posted 5 years ago #
urchaidh
Member

Long bolt and a bend in the stays.

The plastic spacers may have come with the mudguard, or may have been something from the useful bits box.

I have a collection of longer stainless hex bolts, if you figure out what length you need I can take a look.

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