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Tales from the national parks

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  1. SRD
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    Caught this on catch up last night quite randomly (paging through to get to the Scottish explorers show while not feeling very well).

    Here's the Guardian review, which pretty much sums up my feelings too.

    Captures the dilemmas/conflicts of locals/jobs/environment etc rather well, although I would like to have seen more reflection on the issue of treating post-industrial landscape in the same way as a 'wilderness' area, which just doesn't work very well.

    Also lots of pics of Mountain bikes:)

    Suggests that it will be interesting to see how the gold mine in Loch Lomond plays out...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. PS
    Member

    I watched that with interest as Honister/Buttermere isn't far from where I grew up. It was a difficult (and moving) watch at times, knowing what was going to happen...

    Instinctively, on the basic headline fact that he wanted to install a zipwire from the top of an isolated fell, I'd have been against the plan; but when you look at where it was proposed to be installed - like you say, SRD - in a post-industrial landscape, starting from near a mine workings exit and dropping to a mine/quarry building along the route of an old quarry winch line (if I understood that right), I thought it looked like a fine idea. I struggled with Friends of the Lake District's argument that this would destroy the peace and solitude on this one fell, given that there's a bloody great mine and quarrying operation off the side of it (and at the top of Honister pass, not hidden away in a valley somewhere).

    A deeper look at the post-industrial point would have been good. A huge amount of the Lake District is post-industrial - slate, copper, lead, iron, graphite mines, charcoal burners - and it would pretty quickly boil down to differing views of at what point do you freeze man's impact on the landscape.

    But then, Mark Weir had been pretty cavalier and no doubt rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. I didn't know the via ferrata had been closed (disappointed, as well, as I'd always quite fancied giving it a go), but it doesn't take a genius to know what's likely to happen when you stick it through a SSSI. Wouldn't surprise me if there was a bit of settling of scores going on as well.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I might have to watch this.

    I went on the Go-Ape zip wire in the Lake District (the one at Whinlatter). It's amazing fun and I probably yelled my head off like an excited kid. Why some people think the sound of other people having fun is a bad thing I don't know.

    There is plenty of peace and solitude to be easily found in the lake district (or anywhere else in the NP system) if you want it. On flipside, there's plenty of noise and bustle, like Windermere or "Duck Bay" or similar tourist traps.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. crowriver
    Member

    I didn't see the Lake District one, but did see the (earlier?) Peak District one about 'green lanes' and the problem of 'off-roders' (4x4s, trail motorbikes) churning them up, creating noise and general mayhem. Locals, walkers and cyclists pitted against them, Park authority caught in the middle.

    Worth a watch to see how more 'mundane' issues around access are politicked and dealt with. Quite relevant to much of rural Scotland, I'd have thought.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    "
    Off-road unicycles can't ride on bridleways

    This, and less arcane access matters, are discussed in new 'where can I legally ride' pamphlet
    "

    http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/off-road-unicycles-can-t-ride-on-bridleways/012138

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. Dave
    Member

    For some reason I find that document enormously depressing, although it is, to be fair, merely a snapshot of the farcical state the country is in in so many (not cycling related) ways.

    It would probably be quite possible to produce a 40-something page document on why anything enjoyable has an enormous amount of restrictions placed or potentially placed on it in practice, which heartens me a little.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. SRD
    Moderator

    In the clips from the hearing into the planning app, there was a particularly good speech by one member pointing out that the Park is supposed to be preserved for the use and enjoyment of _all_ , not just some particular groups, ages, etc.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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